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    Default 10 Stallions I Wish I Owned -- new article

    Here is my article, "10 Stallions I Wish I Owned", that discusses ten stallions owned by North Americans that I would use if I moved my mare herd across the pond.

    http://www.morningside-stud.com/10St...ishIOwned.html



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    Thank you for this interesting read! I was so pleased to see Contucci on the list.



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    On the show jumping side of breeding, we agree with your picks. Capone's limited offspring are primarily a result of his ownership problems, but he should not be passed up nor should Hickstead. And we have experience with Quinar and bred him to a very easy and rideable Jupiter (Zeus) /E line Hanoverian daughter with much success. Her movement was transmitted so these fillies are beautiful, uphill movers with tremendous jump and tremendous desire to jump. Quinar is being utilized quite a bit in the USA. And great to see the very valuable TB lines of AFR and Hunter recognized as well. Hunter lives up the road from us in Penngrove, CA and he has been used very successfully producing eventers in W2 Holsteiners breeding program. But he definitely should be used more here........maybe Denny Emerson, etc will jump on his bandwagon some day soon!



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    Thanks



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    hey Tom - Windfall is also the sire of Vandiver ridden by Werner Geven at advanced.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly Malone View Post
    hey Tom - Windfall is also the sire of Vandiver ridden by Werner Geven at advanced.
    yes Windfall the son of Habicht...(who was awesome!)

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    Interesting read, Tom!
    Thank you for including A Fine Romance in your list.
    Thank you Knowthatifly, I too am glad to see valuable TB bloodlines included.

    Sidebar: a Capone daughter was bred to AFR this year.
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    Default We need LOTS of pics!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred View Post
    Interesting read, Tom!
    Thank you for including A Fine Romance in your list.
    Thank you Knowthatifly, I too am glad to see valuable TB bloodlines included.

    Sidebar: a Capone daughter was bred to AFR this year.
    That will be a helluva horse! We want lots of pics and progress reports if possible. Grats to you and the impending mother!
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    Interesting to be introduced to some stallions in NA by a guy in Ireland.

    Tom, which of these would you use with an Iroko daughter?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakstable View Post
    Interesting to be introduced to some stallions in NA by a guy in Ireland.
    Agreed!

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    Great article Tom, I'm sure a lot of NA breeders will be interested in reading this.



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    Thanks to everyone.

    Oakstable, all I can tell you is that the very talented showjumper Wind Shear m2s is Ekstein x Orlando x Iroko x Voltaire. So the dam of Wind Shear m2s, Airborne m2s, is by Orlando and out of Odessa (Iroko x Voltaire). See
    http://paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=196660



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    At the risk of getting flamed, Capone has a 3K stud fee. He himself is proven in sport but not proven in the shed. There are sires in EU that are a lot less $ to breed too that are proven in the ring and the shed. I like Capone but the hefty stud & booking fee I do not.
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    Windfall was $3k too. Not sure if he still is.

    If breeders cannot afford to use some of these terrific stallions, there are fewer foals on the ground and less buzz.



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    Hickstead is 5K or 5500 yet much cheaper to EU based folks.
    "Sometimes you just have to shut up and color."



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    fewer foals on the ground and less buzz
    I don't think this is always true. Look at how people flocked to get the first Toto foals- they were rare and desirable. Having just a few available can drive up price.



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    Thanks for this article, Tom. I was curious to see which stallions you would pick!



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    Thank you Tom, I found your article very informative.



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    I really enjoyed reading your article, thanks!
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    I'm a little late to the party, but I only just read the article now. Huge congratulations to Fred and the other stallion owners who's horses were included in the list!



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