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    Default Dutrow suspended for TEN YEARS

    Another killer of threads



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    Jaw dropping to be sure

    DRF 10-12-11 - "... banned by New York - 10-year minimum"

    [The New York State Racing and Wagering Board ]disallowed him from applying for a license for 10 years, claiming that his long history of rule violations and two recent suspensions were “inconsistent with the best interests of racing.”

    The suspension will become effective on Oct. 18, in order to allow owners to remove their horses from Dutrow’s care. It will also allow Dutrow nearly a week in order to file an appeal and seek a stay of the ruling, which would allow Dutrow to train until the state Supreme Court rules on the appeal.

    The board voted unanimously to approve the suspension, along with a $50,000 fine. One board member, Daniel Hogan, cited Dutrow’s long history of violations just before voting.

    “It seems Mr. Dutrow loved horses, but he loved winning even more, and he broke our rules to win,” Hogan said.

    Under the ruling, Dutrow will also be barred from any racing facilities in New York for 10 years.



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    Wonder if the other states can ban him or just deny a renewal when the time comes.



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    Most states uphold other state's suspensions but not sure about one this long since it seems like he was banned for being a detriment to racing with his pattern of offenses as opposed to a ban for a specific infraction.



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    Don't let the doorknob hit you on the a** on the way out!

    Happy to see justice done, and will follow the appeals process and reciprocity issues in other states.



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    Well good for them...racing needs better than cheats thats for sure.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MintHillFarm View Post
    Wonder if the other states can ban him or just deny a renewal when the time comes.
    Normally other jurisdictions reciprocate, though they are not bound to do so, kind of a "gentleman's agreement" as it were. Can't imagine any of the big states, KY, CA, FL etc stepping out of line.

    This probably had much to do with his mouth as his record, not that he didn't have it coming by any means.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Drvmb1ggl3 View Post
    Normally other jurisdictions reciprocate, though they are not bound to do so, kind of a "gentleman's agreement" as it were. Can't imagine any of the big states, KY, CA, FL etc stepping out of line.

    This probably had much to do with his mouth as his record, not that he didn't have it coming by any means.
    Agreed on both points.

    In 2007 when Patrick Biancone was suspended in KY the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority [KHRA] Executive Director announced: "New York, as well as other states, have been notified of the suspension, and most all racing states reciprocate suspensions."

    Who knows maybe the 'old way' of slapping a trainer with a couple of weeks of suspension are over. Sometimes you have do something extreme to set the new tone of zero tolerance. That said I put the appeal in bold as I doubt Dutrow will be ruled off the tracks before the start of 2012.



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    Agree he seems to love his horses, but racing has enough trouble as it is without him flaunting the rules - only proving the finger pointing of the racing naysayers.



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    Lord, please dont let him migrate to Louisiana.....
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    That's what I was thinking.



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    By Wednesday afternoon, Dutrow's attorney, Michael Koenig, had already filed an appeal of the ruling and was seeking a stay in New York Supreme Court.

    "The decision is vindictive, heavy-handed, and most importantly, contrary to the facts, contrary to the evidence, and contrary to any notion of fundamental fairness or due process," said Koenig via cell phone. "The racing and wagering board structure allows them to play prosecutor, judge, and jury. No fair decision can result from such a stacked process."
    - Source: DRF



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    Although the ban specifically applies to Dutrow’s home base in New York, it is likely to be honored in other jurisdictions where top-level racing is conducted. This year, for example, the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission refused to license Dutrow, citing his long history of violations as well as inaccuracies found on his license application.

    Dutrow appealed that ruling, but he has since been unable to run horses in Kentucky.
    Sabini made it clear that the board intended to be vigilant in its enforcement of the Dutrow ban, warning him against merely turning his stable over to an assistant, as he has been found to have done in the past.

    “If there is any smell of a third party training here, we aren’t going to look kindly,” he said.
    Source: Drape/NYT



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    LOOOOOOOOOOOONG overdue. But sadly, I'm certain he'll end up training somewhere else where the penalties aren't as strict. Step in the right direction and about time! I'm curious to know what the final straw was? That's a pretty serious ban and I've known of trainers getting away with some god awful stuff. $100 says he ends up in New Mexico....
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    I hope the appellate process is much faster than the courts. Of course he'll then go into the court system if he loses and try to get a TRO so he can keep working at the tracks while his appeal winds its way thru the court system.

    I've never liked him. He's not good for horses.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeBreeze View Post
    $100 says he ends up in New Mexico....

    I was thinking the exact same thing!!!!
    "The best pace is a suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die!"
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    Well this ruling might just put five honest trainers back to work. We can only hope!



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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeBreeze View Post
    LOOOOOOOOOOOONG overdue. But sadly, I'm certain he'll end up training somewhere else where the penalties aren't as strict. Step in the right direction and about time! I've known of trainers getting away with some god awful stuff. $100 says he ends up in New Mexico....
    Quote Originally Posted by GoingUp...POP! View Post
    I was thinking the exact same thing!!!!
    My money's on Pennsylvania where program training is not only welcomed but encouraged.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dahoss View Post
    Well this ruling might just put five honest trainers back to work. We can only hope!
    True Hoss, how cool would that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonriverfarm View Post
    Lord, please dont let him migrate to Louisiana.....
    Or Texas! Oh never mind, we already have ASSmussen, and thar ain't room enuff for the both of em!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadie's mom View Post
    Or Texas! Oh never mind, we already have ASSmussen, and thar ain't room enuff for the both of em!
    That's what we've always called him!
    "The best pace is a suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die!"
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