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  1. #1
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    Default Need suggestions for pony hunter stallions to cross on 14.1h mare

    After swearing up and down that I am not breeding anymore, I find myself with an interesting pony mare laid up for a year. I have always wanted to breed her as she is such a cool athlete, early spring may be the time! She is 14.1h, by Gayfields Vida Blue (13h) and out of a 15.3 h TB mare. I would like to breed ideally for a big large, or a big medium. It will be a first foal, so I think I can gamble a little on size. Mare is a fabulous jumper with a huge step and natural changes. Don't want to take any of that away. Would like to improve her trot, refine her head (she is attractive but not doll faced), and would love something that has reliably produced quiet temperaments. I like the Empire's Power and Mapleside Mr Magic offspring for these requirements, but am a little concerned with size. Any thoughts or other suggestions?
    Stonewall Ponies
    Ixonia, WI
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    Agree with you on all counts. Both stallions listed are crossbreds and you don't want to breed a crossbred to a crossbred, primarily due to unknown size outcomes but also to not dilute so much.

    I think a Section B would be a fine choice and with her sire line so proven in performance, I'd lean strongly towards a Section B that has a proven performance pedigree, or has sired get that have won in performance..

    Winning on the line is one thing, winning in performance is a completely different subject.
    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver, Equine Insurance Specialist



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    I totally agree on wanting to breed for performance first! I have always loved the Vida's...all good jumpers with real canters. So many of the Section B's that win on the line dont do anything for me in terms of producing canter and consistent jump. Powers height seems fairly fixed, going back several generations in the 14.2 to 14.3 range....seems like a first foal on a 14.1 might be ok? As for Mr Magic, I love love love both Beau Rivage and Mapleside Magic Dancer, both Magical on a Vida daughter.... The Mr Magics I have seen have been
    mid size larges and freakishly good movers/jumpers, however I don't know the dam lines of these ponies. I also have concerns about dilution, Some of my best ponies are/have been 3/4 Welsh...they were also mainly smalls! Suggestions for good, performance producing, Big(13.2-14h) B's that might give me a top of the line medium? I definitely want to stay away from smalls or schmediums.
    Stonewall Ponies
    Ixonia, WI
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    Big Section B's that have sired performance winners or have STRONG performance in their pedigrees:

    Crossgates Larasan - www.venturestable.com

    Rosmels Scarlet Emperor - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/rosmels+scarlet+emperor. He is 13.2 hands

    Blue Fox (Blue Rain x Jasmine) http://web.me.com/emcinternational/E.../Blue_Fox.html He is 13 hands.
    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver, Equine Insurance Specialist



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    Hi Emily. Check out my buckskin stallion - he is just 3, but has a wonderful performance pedigree and is 13.3hh with a quiet temperament. There is video on my website, and we are getting ready to shoot some more soon. Let me know if you have any questions. Agree completely with MS Mr. Magic, but would be afraid of unknown size as well. Check out MS Finale on my website too - gorgeous yearling by Mr. Magic out of a Halcyon Lancelot/TB mare - he is over 14hh as a yrlg! Unfortunate, but true Let me know if you have any questions.
    Quicksilver Farms, LLC
    "Welsh Hunter Ponies"
    Welsh Sec. B Stallions and
    Fancy Show Pony Prospects
    www.quicksilverponies.com



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