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  1. #1
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    Default UPDATE!! Need some Feedback about xray results for a hunter

    I have been shopping for a hunter/eq prospect and have come across one that I love. I had him vetted this week and everything was good with his flexions. However I had him xrayed and it showed some mild degeneration in one of his hocks or mild DJD in as the vet called it. He is 6 yrs old imported from belgium and is priced at 75k. Is this risky for this price? Will it affect his resale value? Would like to have a nice investment prospect. thanks for any help!!!
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    Those are questions for your vet. Or, if your vet isn't closely involved in the market, questions for a second opinion from a vet who is.



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    What she said.

    Planning on flipping a horse already priced at 75k is a dangerous game!



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    I went through a similar experience this spring with a hunter prospect, same price range, same age, etc. Really liked the horse. Passed all the flexions, etc. Vet found some changes in one of his hocks via x-ray and because there were no earlier x-rays available on the horse to do a comparison, I passed on the horse. No regrets.



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    This is something for your vet, but my 2 cents just to give you something to think about.

    How mild is mild? As a 6 year old what has this horse been doing for the last couple of years?

    I would get yourself a few opinions, especially from vets who deal in this type of stuff!

    For that kind of money you could find something without the hock changes, that would have better resale potential down the road, granted they are horses and ANYTHING can happen to them w/ or w/o the changes. How long do you plan on keeping this horse for and then flipping him.
    Any potential buyer for him as a resale horse will have an advantage/disadvantage with the x-rays you have currently and ones that could be taken if the next buyer decides to x-ray on the PPE, this could also come back and bite you if the DJD is more progressed.



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    6 years young and $75,000--assuming it hasn't done that much, that horse better have a near flawless vetting!



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    Quote Originally Posted by geldingsRgreat View Post
    6 years young and $75,000--assuming it hasn't done that much, that horse better have a near flawless vetting!
    And an amazing jump. And 10+ movement.
    ~ Citizens for a Kinder, Gentler COTH...our mantra: Be nice. ~



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    Quote Originally Posted by geldingsRgreat View Post
    6 years young and $75,000--assuming it hasn't done that much, that horse better have a near flawless vetting!
    I couldn't agree more! That is a chunk of change.



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    No way would I pay 75 for a horse that has DJD... DJD doesn't get any better from here.

    Did you see the rads? What did the seller say about this? Did they know horse has DJD.

    And remmeber - A horse is only worth what someone is willing to pay for them...
    How people treat you is their KARMA.... how you REACT is yours!



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    I was at a major training barn in California a number of years ago where I was leasing a horse and happened to overhear a conversation between two of the trainers. One made a comment that there are a lot of people in the US lining up to pay $$$$ for imported horses that don't cost very much over there to begin with.

    I know this horse is already over here, but my point in retelling the above was to suggest that some horses are overpriced. If this horse is only 6 and doesn't have really clean rads I'd steer clear at that price. I wouldn't take on a horse with issues or potential issues unless it had a stellar performance record to suggest that such a compromise might have some benefits. (i.e. a horse who had maintenance issues but had already done some BigEq)



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    My Motto;

    I have never been disappointed in a horse I didn't buy as much as I have been disappointed in horse I did buy!!

    If his vetting isn't 100% ok for $75k then PASS. You will never get your money back.

    If you have $75K to blow then by all means, buy him immediately. And honestly if you have a legitimate mild DJD case, then offer the seller half.



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    If you LOVE the horse, use it as a negotiating tool to lower the price. Horses can go a long time with DJD if its mild, sometimes it wont progress at all but sometimes it can become crippling.

    As a re-sale horse? Absolutley not. Those need to have near perfect vettings.



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    Thanks for everyones input! After perfect flexions and a 100% flawless vetting I had the joint looked at by an equine joint specialist here in Colorado at CSU he also saw an extremely mild case of DJD but also thought it may be a good idea to have the hock rexrayed because the view was a little awkward on the first. Following having the second set done 2 vets looked at the second set of xrays both confirmed that the hock absolutely did not show any signs of DJD. Im extremely happy about that and now have a new horse that will be delivered next week.



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    Congratulations on the new horse! I'm glad the vet issues got resolved. It is so frustrating when you find "the one" and it doesn't vet for some surprise reason. Enjoy him!



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    xrays can be difficult.... even in the human world. One of my sons went in for xrays after falling from a swing set and the dr. said it was blunt trama, I just knew something was up and the next day went to another dr and they looked at the xrays and he had a fractured collar bone.

    Glad it worked out for you and I bet your are SOOO excited!!! Enjoy and we expect photos and lots of brags about him!!
    How people treat you is their KARMA.... how you REACT is yours!



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