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  1. #1
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    Default Does this saddle even exist??!!

    I'm constantly on the look out for a jumping saddle...
    I have yet to find a used saddle that I think will meet my needs.

    What I would like is a 16'5, short/forward flap saddle, with a N or NM tree, My TB has withers, but he is kind of a chunk of a guy and has a semi wide (wide-ish for a TB, not QH/warmblood wide) flatish back. Small blocks and a flat seat

    You can almost never find demo saddle that even come in a 16'5 and you almost never see used saddles with a N or NM tree.

    Its so frustrating!
    -Chelsie
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    Stubbens! My Siegfried II has tiny blocks and a very flat seat. I'd try a 30 or 31cm tree. My WIDE Arab wears a 32cm. The 32cm is too wide for my husband's Appendix QH who is two hands taller than my guy. He'd be better off in a 31cm.

    Best news? They're like $3-500 on eBay.



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    If your TB is chunky I'm not sure why you are looking for a narrow tree?
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    Rembrandt/Classic saddles are nice and super adjustable. You can find them on ebay if you're diligent.
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    My mare takes a MN and yes, they are hard to find. Best bet is to find a medium and have a saddle fitter work on it.

    My mare is also a "chunk", as was my Clydesdale. Both needed MN trees though due to their wither conformation. Not just their back, etc width.



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    Not inexpensive, but here it is in a County Stabilizer, which I would guess would work well http://www.horseclicks.com/saddles/82zk37/

    And there is a County innovation here: http://usea2.net/ads/index.php?id=10

    Much less expensive (older) Stabilizer http://www.equinenow.com/english_saddle-ad-4605

    Kentaur eventer here (may not be narrow enough) http://ponyclub.org/classifieds.php#9

    Kieffer standards often fit TBs well http://www.horseclicks.com/saddles/jrfm7p/

    These are new, but come in configuration you want
    http://www.fusionsaddles.com/Saddles...Event_Saddles0

    http://www.hastilowusa.com/shop/inde...d=&prevstart=0

    http://www.yoursaddles.com/#/165-and-under/4542799360

    http://www.flynnssaddleshop.com/rcPr...?id=1166&c1=56
    Not sure of tree size, but Albion does come in a MN and a MTB, both good for the type of horse you describe
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    Look for Berney Bros, particularly a TW (that model has less rolls and bocks). I don't know how easy it will be to find a N, but keep your eyes out.

    Depending on your budget, Berney Bros can make you a saddle custom for you and your horse (people typically send them good wither tracings for that). Depending on the exchange rate, they can run in the 1500 range.



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    I recommend the Prestige eventing. Forward, short flap. Can be adjusted to MN or N. The only problem is that it only comes in 17 or 16. You can easily demo a 17 and find one used. But finding a 16 is harder. The 16 is fairly large for a 16, so might work for you.



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    Trying to figure out why you would want a Narrow tree on a wide back?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Mickey View Post
    I'm constantly on the look out for a jumping saddle...
    I have yet to find a used saddle that I think will meet my needs.

    What I would like is a 16'5, short/forward flap saddle, with a N or NM tree, My TB has withers, but he is kind of a chunk of a guy and has a semi wide (wide-ish for a TB, not QH/warmblood wide) flatish back. Small blocks and a flat seat

    You can almost never find demo saddle that even come in a 16'5 and you almost never see used saddles with a N or NM tree.

    Its so frustrating!
    from what you describe you need two saddles meshed into one.

    The only way to have a N up front and a wide in the back is to just buy the wide and then throw in a home made gusset...or buy a very expensive custom saddle.
    : )

    or, my guess is that he's really not that wide and would do find in a medium?

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    It sounds as though what actually may be needed is a trapezius or skid row panel (or something of that sort) to keep the saddle up off the withers, but still be appropriately wide.
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    He's not super wide, I do know a another TB or 2 that have same back width/type, they are both being ridden in a custom(to the rider, not the horse) Narrow Tree stackhouse, which also fits my guy. He may not be as big as I think he is, but after a year of riding him and comparing him to my other TB who is tiny, I think this guy is huge. He also has really big vertebra. My dressage saddle is BC vinci, with a medium tree that needs pads to fit. I look and look for a used jumping version with a MN tree in a small enough seat.
    Also, saddle tend to slide back on him, idk if its due to actual saddle fit or if its just him.

    I'm riding him in a stubban right now, it fits me okay, the back part is wide enough, the wither area is way to wide and it pancakes on his withers even with extra pads.

    My problem with most prestige saddles I see is that the seats are too deep and the blocks are to big (for my taste) Also, I was under the impression that a "16" in prestige land was actually more like a 17 in most other saddles.

    I've never ridden in a county... maybe I'll try to get my hands on one. Most that I find have a long flap.

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    I have considered doing that, but what happens if I don't like the saddle?
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    Good luck! That's why I have a BC Vinici jump saddle, customized for me and my horse. It was originally a medium tree (for my old horse) but the saddle fitter adjusted it to a narrow for my current horse, and had to add a lot of flocking.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WishIWereRiding View Post
    Good luck! That's why I have a BC Vinici jump saddle, customized for me and my horse. It was originally a medium tree (for my old horse) but the saddle fitter adjusted it to a narrow for my current horse, and had to add a lot of flocking.
    ideally I would just go to BC and have them make me a saddle because I know I love the one I have. I currently don't have the money. ):
    -Chelsie
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    Have you tried a Pessoa with the adjustable gullet? I use one on my pony, the angle of her shoulder is fairly narrow/steep, but her back is wide & flat. Two other riders at my barn have had good luck with Pessoas on their TBs, both of whom have fairly prominent withers.

    They're reasonably priced and have good resale values.



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