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  1. #1
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    Question Ringbone

    So my horse was diagnosed with ringbone after an MRI about a month ago. He was injected, and provided corrective shoes. I have also been putting surpass on him often. I have been riding at the walk for 2 1/2 weeks now.
    My question is about expectations. Should I expect for him to have been at his best soon after the injections/shoeing? I know it will progressively get worse, but can I hope for anything better than what he looks like soon after veterinary treatment? I don't think Tildren is an option.... Basically, he does not look so hot, and I am toying with giving up.



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    Default Every horse is different

    My horse was diagnosed with ringbone 4 years ago when he was 17. We continued his bar shoes (low heels and then for ringbone). He also was on Adequan and Legend, he continued his routinue of regular work, low level in everything until this July. I just retired him at 21 & 1/2 because his heart is no longer in his work. He did remarkably well for a big 17" guy. My vet was pleased he was happy working for as long as he was, but that is his disposition. It has taken him a little while to adjust to no work but he owes me nothing. I think you can keep a horse with ringbone happy, you have to expect ups and downs and really listen to what they have to tell you. Godd Luck with you and your boy.



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    Ringbone is one of the most difficult things to predict the time frame of its progression. Even trying to predict how lame it shoukld make the horse is impossible just from its apprearance on radiographs or MRI, if it is not huge. Some can look awful and not make the horse very lame but sone can be minute but in just the wrong place and really sore a horse up.
    Often you may have found a shoeing that is working really well for a long time, then horse takes one bad step on a rock or the edge of a stall footing or something and wham..it goes south and he never gets sound again.

    There are many shoeing options to assist a horse with ringbone so if the one you are using is not working well , there is much more"tinkering" that can be done.
    So the best I can say is if the horse starts to get bad is to experiment with different shoeing and hope for the best, and keep him in the most level ground you can. In general shoeing that eases breakover all around the foot is helpful ,and possibly easing concussion with pads,plastic "clogs", or urethane shoes.
    I also use the Kross Check 'leverage testing' system too,to let the horse tell ME what he wants before I decide on a particular shoeing package. It is a very useful tool for farriers (and vets) when shoeing for these kinds of things.
    Patty Stiller CNBBT,CNBF,CLS, CE
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    Have you tried a course of IRAP and adequan perhaps previcoxx when you want to ride, along with trying different shoeing options.



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    Is it high ringbone or low ringbone? Peri-articular or articular? Which limb(s) are affected? can you post some photos of his overall conformation, limb/hoof conformation and the bottom of the hoof with the shoe applied?

    Since Tildren has never been shown to be effective in the treatment of ringbone, you've made a wise decision.



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    http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/...n/jackfeet.jpg
    This picture is before treatment (not that it changed much). It is the only picture I have relative to this. I can grab some more tonight when I go to the barn. He has super low heels, and tends to grow out his toe. He has very shallow soles too. His conformation is horrible, and he has had soundness issues since he was 4 (he is 14 now). I have just started with a new farrier, who shod him for the first time post-MRI using x-rays and MRI photos. He seems really good, and definitely did a nice job on his feet. It is high ringbone. I am not sure about peri-articular vs. articular (not sure what that means), but I will ask. Thanks, guys. I know that this is still new, and I can try to tweak the shoeing, but I was expecting big improvement, now that we know what we are dealing with.
    I will ask my vet about those other treatment options, Pharoah. Thanks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 2boys View Post
    [url] It is high ringbone. I am not sure about peri-articular vs. articular (not sure what that means), but I will ask.
    Peri-articular: Around the joint but not in the joint
    Articular: In the joint and much more problematic.
    ..... but I was expecting big improvement, now that we know what we are dealing with.
    You are dealing with an arthritic condition and improvement is always "iffy". That said, If the high ringbone can be stabilized and often, if joint fusion occurs, the horse will return to a state of "serviceably sound". Low ringbone is much more problematic.

    Short phalangeal levers, ease of breakover in any directions, correct phalangeal alignment are the main tenents of mechanical(farrier) intervention.



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    I'm no expert on ringbone or anything but we rescued a little paint gelding who had it. It looked AWFUL! That little horse rarely takes a lame step. Of course we never ride him hard just in case but he goes for hour+ trail rides and trots and canters just fine. We have never had any treatment or anything done, it does not seems to bother him. Good luck with your guy!



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    I was just reaadinig about a supplement in the Horse Journal magazines Guide to Supplements. They highly recommended it for this condition - Amerdon Rapid Response. Good luck.
    \"You have two choices when a defining moment comes along - you can either define the moment, or let the moment define you.\" Tin Cup



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    My horse has a huge ringbone. It took it about a year or so to fuse and now it is not a big problem. She still has regular arthritis though. Previcox keeps her going.
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    Our mare has it in both front legs. We were initially told it was high and low and in the joints, but our new vet reviewed and compared xrays from 5 years ago and the latest ones and says, it is not in the joints. Short of rolling her toes and trimming on a regular basis, adding Previcox, we have not done anything special. She is mostly retired, but has been amazingly sound all year.
    One question: I have been told that walk and canter are less painful/stressful to a ringbone horse. When she is gimpy, she is so at the trot.
    Good luck!



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