The Chronicle of the Horse
MagazineNewsHorse SportsHorse CareCOTH StoreVoicesThe Chronicle UntackedDirectoriesMarketplaceDates & Results
 
Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct. 18, 2008
    Location
    Deschapelles, Haiti
    Posts
    2,372

    Default NH type human starting question, where there is no trainer version

    I couldn't search up with a thread for this exact question and we've been discussing various people over the last few months, so here goes. Hopefully we can avoid a trainwreck, please.

    This is another one of my 'It's best to work with a trainer but I live Where There Is No Trainer' questions. I was taught very basic horse handling and groundwork skills way back when. It was based on the "reward for obedience, scaled discipline for disobedience" approach. It really didn’t teach the good horse reading, equine psychology, and pressure-release training skills that the approach sometimes called “Natural Horsemanship” has done a good job of spelling out.

    On vacation/ trimming training I got a good look at that ‘NH’ type of horse handling and there are definitely tools there I should have in my toolbox. Pepo pony and company might phrase it as ‘learning Horse as a Second Language’ or ‘Human Starting’. Clinicians might call these class sections ‘basic groundwork’ or ‘colt starting’?

    There isn’t anyone available here who can be a hands-on trainer so I’ll have to resort to DVD’s to get a clue or at least buy a vowel. Among all the clinicians/ others with DVD series whom we have discussed on COTH, what would be the best series to get if you can’t go over the DVDs and your own groundwork with a hands-on trainer? I have some ideas but would like to hear suggestions before I mention them.
    HAS provides hospital care to 340,000 people in Haiti's Artibonite Valley 24/7/365/earthquake/cholera/whatever.
    www.hashaiti.org blog:http://hashaiti.org/blog



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug. 3, 2009
    Location
    Camp Creek, WV
    Posts
    326

    Default

    I am not really sure what he put out for a "series," because he is kind of before the super-slick marketing so many NH people have now...but my vote would be Ray Hunt. I just did a quick Google and only looked at one site but I didn't check Amazon, HorseBooks, or any Western tack stores. I think that was Ray's own web site and the most obvious how-to DVD I saw was colt-starting, but that might not be what you want. I'm pretty sure there are others, though. Good luck! I can truly sympathize with your situation. Even though I am on the east coast of the US, I'm about three hours away from most trainers and I don't have a trailer, so I might as well be on the dark side of the moon.



  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb. 7, 2005
    Location
    Eventing Heaven, VA
    Posts
    1,826

    Default

    The bits and pieces of John Lyons videos I've seen seemed pretty common-sense and straight forward. I'd second Ray Hunt, he was NH before NH had a name.
    Failure is always an option*
    -Mythbusters

    *As long as you figure out what you f'ed up and fix it! -Me



  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr. 11, 2003
    Location
    Frederick, MD
    Posts
    486

    Default

    I think Dennis Reis does a pretty good job with his materials.



  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep. 18, 2003
    Posts
    4,538

    Default

    You might try True Horsemanship Through Feel, a book written by Leslie Desmond in conjunction with Tom Dorrance. It has an excellent write up of a step-by-step way to get a horse to lead.

    I think Leslie Desmond has some DVDs, but I don't know much about them.
    __________________________
    "... if you think i'm MAD, today, of all days,
    the best day in ten years,
    you are SORELY MISTAKEN, MY LITTLE ANCHOVY."



  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov. 1, 2008
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    992

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mp View Post
    You might try True Horsemanship Through Feel, a book written by Leslie Desmond in conjunction with Tom Dorrance. It has an excellent write up of a step-by-step way to get a horse to lead.

    I think Leslie Desmond has some DVDs, but I don't know much about them.
    The book is excellent because she just wrote down what Tom said. I haven't seen her DVDs, but I have seen her work with more than one horse and it is incredible to know that she spent more than 5 minutes with Mr. Dorrance. My advice is to steer clear of Leslie herself.

    Buck's "From the Ground Up" (I have the VHS, but it must be on DVD by now). There is also one called simply "Groundwork". Or anything done by Ray Hunt, Joe Wolter, Bryan Neubert...
    JB-Infinity Farm
    www.infinitehorses.com



  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb. 16, 2005
    Location
    Central California Mountains
    Posts
    774

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mp View Post
    You might try True Horsemanship Through Feel, a book written by Leslie Desmond in conjunction with Tom Dorrance.
    Just a point of clarification. True Horsemanship Through Feel is with Bill Dorrance, not Tom.

    You might check out Giddyupflix to rent some DVDs before you buy any. Get a feel for who you like.



  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep. 18, 2003
    Posts
    4,538

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kewpalace View Post
    Just a point of clarification. True Horsemanship Through Feel is with Bill Dorrance, not Tom.
    Oops .. I knew that. Thanks for correcting.
    __________________________
    "... if you think i'm MAD, today, of all days,
    the best day in ten years,
    you are SORELY MISTAKEN, MY LITTLE ANCHOVY."



Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 7
    Last Post: Aug. 12, 2011, 01:15 PM
  2. When starting out as a trainer, what does one call onesself?
    By mpsbarnmanager in forum Off Course
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: May. 24, 2011, 12:54 PM
  3. What is the human version of "The Horse Journal"
    By bluedapple in forum Off Course
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Mar. 29, 2011, 12:19 PM
  4. Replies: 5
    Last Post: Mar. 10, 2011, 08:51 PM
  5. Being Human (UK version)
    By EponaRoan in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: Feb. 14, 2011, 03:50 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
randomness