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  1. #1
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    Question Yummy Yummy, everyone's favorite electrolytes

    Ok, what are your fave electrolytes?

    I've been hearing about feed-ins lately, so if anyone has experience.. I live in a terribly hot area (110 degrees on a regular day), also humid (humid enough to make Houston look like the Sahara), and the weather is subject to change every five seconds.

    So as you can tell, it isn't easy on the horses, every time we travel I load up the tack trunk (now the pharmacy) with electrolytes, cool vests, ice chests, and ice packs. They are all about to go on a 5-6 hour trailer ride to a 2 week "AA" , and this time I dont want to spend it at the vet stall...

    I put it on this forum because, well, you guys know electrolytes and horse health care way better the H&J people

    I think Restore has worked best so far.



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    My favorite is Perform N Win and I buy it from The Distance Depot. It is a very nice, mild formula that isn't too caustic or harsh. It has added dextrose for palatibility and efficient absorption. You can dose 1-3 ounces per hour of sweaty/hot work. When I am planning a long, hot trailer ride I dose before going on the trailer, and after coming off. My experience is that just a single 1 ounce dose doesn't make a horse crave water, but a couple of doses will so be sure the horse always has access to fresh, clean water in ample supply. If you dose before going on the trailer with more than 1 ounce, I would offer a bucket of water after a couple of hours.

    My horses will eat the PnW in soaked beet pulp with no problem. Otherwise I mix it with about 1 tablespoon of water, and 2 tablespoons of Papya puree (Natural Plan Stomach Soother), or you can use applesauce, or Pro-CMC. I use the disposable squeezy condiment bottles that you can buy for $1 at the Dollar Store, or the kitchen supply section of WalMart. Mix everything in the bottle, mix it well, then squeeze it into an electrolyte syringe. (Again, I buy these at The Distance Depot.) You can also reuse an old dewormer or bute tube. Just be sure to wash it out thoroughly first.

    You can mix these tubes up ahead of time (this is much cheaper than buying pre-mixed tubes). I store them in the cooler or refrigerator if you have one. When I dose the horse, I squirt it in the back of the mouth and then follow it with a syringe full of water. That just helps wash the salts down the throat and clean the mouth out.

    When I'm doing long, hot trailer rides, I be sure to stop only when critically necessary for fuel. I don't want the horses sitting in the hot trailer, in the sun, not moving unless it is crucial to do so. I make sure my rig is fueled up before loading, then I try to stop just once for fuel. I also pick a place to park in the shade, to minimize heat stress.

    I like to use 4 sports medicine boots instead of shipping boots because they are cooler. All the windows wide open of course, and try to travel in the cool of the day if possible. I've been known to get on the road at 4 a.m. when I didn't really need to be on the road until 8 a.m., just because most of the traveling will be over before the sun is high and hot.

    If it's really horribly hot, you can soak the horse in water at your rest stops so they go back on the trailer hot, and the air blowing through the windows will provide more cooling.

    You can add a cup of rubbing alcohol to a 5 gallon bucket of water for sponging, which evaporates more quickly and provides even more cooling. Just be SURE the horse doesn't drink this water.

    I've seen some people trailer with ice boots on the legs. I haven't done it, but that might help. They usually only stay cold for a few hours though.

    If you have mangers in your trailer, you can provide a wet sloppy mash for them to eat free choice, which will help with hydration.

    If this is a 2 week show, I would make sure the horse is well accustomed to eating wet soaked feed, and I would provide soaked hay cubes or pellets, and beet pulp 3x a day. Mine are all well accustomed to drinking their soup, but it can be a real turnoff for a horse who isn't used to it. Start now and make sure they will eat it. You can mix in applesauce for flavoring, and also their regular grain ration. I would dose at least 2x per day each day that you're at the show if it's hot and they're working.

    Provide 2 buckets of water per stall if possible.

    Also what I do is to be sure the horse has PLENTY of wet sloppy soaked beet pulp for a couple of days before getting in the trailer. That way their zillion miles of intestines are well loaded with hydrated bulk. A ride vet told me that the feed you give the horse today gets you good gutt sounds tomorrow. So in other words, loading the horse up on wet beet pulp and soaked wet hay today will help the horse tomorrow.

    You cannot technically "pre-load" electrolytes - in other words, the body cannot store excess. But, I do start dosing 2 days in advance of going on the trailer, because the horse will be well hydrated with all systems up and running well in advance. I will give 2 doses each day for 2 days before going to an endurance ride, or overnight camping trip where there will be lots of trailer and riding time.

    I hope that information helps.

    Edited to Add: You could also try Horse Quencher, which is a flavoring for their water bucket, or you can make an oat float by floating a cup full of oats and rice bran on the surface of the water bucket. Sometimes cubes of chopped apples will flavor the water and get them drinking also. Some people use Gatorade powder but I haven't tried that. If you access to a freezer on the show grounds, you can make frozen apple juice cubes and dump them into the water bucket in the stall.



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    Default I second Perform N Win!

    I second Perform N Win! My horse literally tries to bite the syringe when I'm dosing him with it. He'll eat it in his grain too. My friend & I did a CTR a few weeks ago & both our horses did very well on Perform N Win. Her horse has never had Perform N Win & she mentioned he can be a picky eater, but her electrolytes were old so she used mine & her horse was chowing down his grain with the Perform N Win in it! I tasted it too & it wasn't bitter like I expected, actually it was pretty tasty!



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    This is one of my baby Arabs sucking down Perform N Win mixed with applesauce. I've tried it myself, and it's really good! I started out with one that was too caustic and harsh on my older Arab and she came to hate the sight of the syringe. She's now learned that it contains Perform N Win with applesauce or Papaya and she likes it.

    http://www.hphoofcare.com/LeSorna.wmv

    This filly can be anywhere on the farm, you wave a syringe at her and she comes RUNNING and latches onto it.



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    I use Finish Line Apple-A-Day. Both my horses and any horse I have offered it to LOVE it. My older guy has to be cut off after two buckets worth.



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    My picky eater loves the SmartLytes from SmartPak. No sugar added, and great price too!



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherHorse View Post
    My picky eater loves the SmartLytes from SmartPak. No sugar added, and great price too!
    I would not use an electrolyte that boasted "no sugar added." A form of sugar is critical for rapid absorption into the blood stream. Without a sugar source, the electrolytes are not absorbed quickly or efficiently. There is a lot of scientific data out there on this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Auventera Two View Post
    I would not use an electrolyte that boasted "no sugar added." A form of sugar is critical for rapid absorption into the blood stream. Without a sugar source, the electrolytes are not absorbed quickly or efficiently. There is a lot of scientific data out there on this.
    My other horse is insulin resistant, so it is a must for her. I wonder if I should use something different my normal horses then?



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    Progressive Nutrition's Aqua-aide. I offer 2 scoops dissolved in a gallon of water after work in hot/humid weather and if I notice horses sweating in the fields. They guzzle it down and lick the bucket.

    It does contain dextrose for the reason above. I would call Progressive Nutrition's 800 number and/or contact their nutritionists with questions on how to provide electrolytes to insulin resistant horses-- (and post their response here??)



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    I don't think there's a horse alive that wouldn't suck down Perform N' Win in a second.



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    "I don't think there's a horse alive that wouldn't suck down Perform N' Win in a second."

    I totally agree with this, my horse is like an addict when I give him his syringe of electrolytes, but let me try coming near him with a wormer & he knows from a mile away



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    LyteNow. In the big tube is what I use.



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    Plenty of recipes out there to make your own, too. Reynolds, Old Dom, AERC.

    You can buy the lite salt (potassium chloride) in your groery store. Some say sea salt has mre minerals than plain table or Kosher salt. Some crush tums to add calcium, mix w/ jelly.

    Also, some enduro riders keep two water buckets in front of the horse in camp, one being salt water, and find the horses drink from both.



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    The only "top dress" electolytes the majority of mine seem to like is Summer Games. My watering situation at home just isn't conducive to the kind you add to water, although I've been thinking about trying Horse Quencher the next time we go on the road.
    "Everyone will start to cheer, when you put on your sailin shoes"-Lowell George



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    My mare has always liked Endura-lytes, but I can't find this electrolite any more. Guess I will try Perform N Win.



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