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  1. #1
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    Default XCH systems

    I have both a Collegiate and an Ovation with XCH systems. Lo and behold I find that the medium wide in the Ovation with the Pessoa system is much narrower than the Collegiate with the Wintec system....what gives? A full size difference!

    GEESH how bout some standardization.
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    Good question and "don't worry about it"-- all at once!

    Good question because I think Weatherbeeta owns all of those lines now. You'd think one manufacturer would standardize that. But, really, Weatherbeeta is a distribution company so maybe not.

    I think PROTACKGUY can give you the clearest, most accurate answer.

    The "don't worry about it" is that whatever gullet fits, go with that!

    And a question for you that will educate all of us: When you put the same size gullet plate in any of these three saddles, do you find they fit really differently? In other words, if disregard color and just find the same size/shape plate, what have you learned about rest of the tree or panels' shape in these three saddles?

    You might be able to help a lot of people interested in the XCH system.
    The armchair saddler
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    I have a Pessoa with the XCH and it seemed super narrow to me, so I'm glad to hear I'm not going crazy. The horse I'm riding now goes in a wide plate with my saddle, and goes in a medium for a lot of other saddles. I tried the x-wide in it and just really couldn't believe that's as wide as it gets! Luckily I haven't needed it any wider, but I guess it's just not the saddle for a very wide horse.
    If the pony spits venom in your face or produces a loud roar, it is probably not a pony. Find another. -The Oatmeal



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    Pessoa and Ovation are the same. They are not the same as Collegiate.

    As mvp said - they might fit differently based on the shape/length of tree points, regardless of plate. I have noticed that across brands.



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    The problem is that if you use the plates (which do fit btw) you void the warranty.

    The difference is the Pessoa plates have the screw built in and the Wintec has a separate nut.

    The Pessoa is at least one size smaller when measured. Just thought I would pass it along.
    The rider casts his heart over the fence,
    the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

    –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart



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    I'm not sure why you'd expect there to be consistency between brands of plates, when there isn't any consistency between brands of saddles to begin with
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