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    Default Fake Tails?

    In the latest Eventing magazine, in the article about Jog-Up Prep, one of the riders mentions using a fake tail in the jog-up if the horse in question is lacking in that department. :-) That got me wondering, are fake tails legal in the dressage phase? In YEH/FEH competitions? Anyone ever used one in any capacity? I see them all the time in WP barns hanging up in the tack room but those suckers are HUGE, I can't imagine putting one on!

    Jennifer



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    I've known a couple of riders who have used tails at Kentucky, and other large events in the dressage phase.



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    I know at least one rider this year who used a fake tail at Rolex.



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    I remember watching Clark Montomgery's wife wash fake tails for his horses on dressage day at Bromont last year. It was funny, because I noticed that he put them in for dressage, but not XC - not that I would expect anyone to worry about a fake tail on XC day, but it was funny to see the difference in their tails with and without extensions!



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    Yes you can use them for dressage. They are not hard to put in ...I had to put one in for a friend at events many years ago but their horse literally had almost no tail : )
    "A little less chit-chat a little more pitter-pat"



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    and if it is heavy enough, it can stop swishing...
    "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
    carolprudm



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    Quote Originally Posted by mroades View Post
    and if it is heavy enough, it can stop swishing...
    Live and learn! But can a heavy enough one help a horse sit behind...?



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    I know at least one top trainer who swears that his horse's dressage scores went up after he started using a fake tail. The horse naturally has a pretty skimpy tail, and he really does look much more balanced with the added visual weight back there, though he isn't moving or performing any differently.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeannette, formerly ponygyrl View Post
    But can a heavy enough one help a horse sit behind...?
    One can only hope!
    Last edited by Old Fashioned; Aug. 8, 2011 at 08:41 AM.
    Camels spit, Mary, camels - Catherine Haddad "Dressage Critic



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    Wow, I am actually surprised at all the responses! Okay, so for a TB with a skimpyish tail, maybe a 1/2 lb extension? (Didn't know there were SIZES until I looked 'em up on ebay!)

    Jennifer



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    Try the Show Pen. They'll help you find a good match. I was sent a few to try and sent back the ones that didn't work.
    Last edited by Old Fashioned; Aug. 8, 2011 at 08:44 AM.
    Camels spit, Mary, camels - Catherine Haddad "Dressage Critic



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    Quote Originally Posted by saje View Post
    I know at least one top trainer who swears that his horse's dressage scores went up after he started using a fake tail. The horse naturally has a pretty skimpy tail, and he really does look much more balanced with the added visual weight back there, though he isn't moving or performing any differently.
    I believe it. Eddie consistently scored 3-4 points better with the fake in than without it. I kid you not!



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    Almost everyone uses them in th Uk and Australia. I have become a convert. It does make a difference in dressage sadly....



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    Quote Originally Posted by eventrider View Post
    Almost everyone uses them in th Uk and Australia. I have become a convert. ....
    Really? Crikey, I worked as rider for an eventing judge and producer in the UK, who used to teach a lot of high profile event riders and while I have heard of fake tails in the show ring, I don't think I have ever heard of them in eventing (unless the horse has NO tail or something). Maybe I just didn't spot them!

    I have never used them myself anyway..



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    I have a fake tail...although haven't used it at an event. It does look a bit pleasure-y, which is what we use it for. It makes him look uuber fancy shmancy.

    Maybe I'll use it at our dressage show this weekend, see if I can get a few extra points.
    What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what
    lies with in us. - Emerson



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    This is so wrong for event horses.



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    Gaughh, Cindy, me too....I was reading this and thinking the same thing!
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    I was thinking about it if I ever did a jog but this has me considering it for dressage. My horse is at a Western barn and the trainer has volunteered a tail...
    5, 4, 3, 2, 1, GO - you're on course!



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    Quote Originally Posted by cindywilson View Post
    This is so wrong for event horses.
    Methinks we have concerns much larger than who is fake and who is not.


    Ooops. Meant who HAS a fake. Tails, boobs, nails, doesn't matter.
    What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what
    lies with in us. - Emerson



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    Quote Originally Posted by Babble View Post
    I remember watching Clark Montomgery's wife wash fake tails for his horses on dressage day at Bromont last year.
    Unless I can somehow obtain a wife who will install and wash fake tails for me, I don't see this happening for my horses.




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