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    This guy in CT looks like he needs a home:

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19912996

    I have a good friend that fosters for the rescue that has this dog listed, and she tells me that the fees ($300.00) do go towards the vet bills, feed, etc, and also towards paying fees to get other dogs out of the kill shelters.

    Some other pups (13 weeks) that they have fostered out and available:

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19522558

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19521734

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19522595

    9 females and 2 males in the litter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xctrygirl View Post
    Hi guys,

    We are looking into taking in another dog. The question I have is where can we look online that will help us with this search.

    We'd love a lab, over 8 months old full bred prefered but we're realistic, a close mix could be fine.

    I have looked at Craigslist, Pet Finder, Petango and Ebay Classifeds.

    What bothers me is that there seems not to be a basic site where owners can get rid of their dogs without a potential new owner having to spend in excess of $200. I get that rescues need to cover their expenses. I am a bt shocked to see fees of over $300 in some places for a mutt. I can do math and having cared for my dogs I know what vaccines and spay/neutering cost. So I am kindof wondering what those "rescues" are doing with 50+ animals at $300 a pop!


    Anyway... off the rant. Aside from Craigslist, am I missing some site online to help me look for a direct from owner dog?

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    When I was looking for a dog that was "golden retriever-ish" I had a choice. I could pay $1000 for a purebred puppy, or I could pay $250 for a "golden retriever and something else" at the animal shelter. He's 11 now, and my "inexpensive" dog has cost me thousands of dollars in regular vet care, food, and general maintenance over the years.

    $300 for a nice adoptable dog is a drop in the bucket, especiallly if they come neutered and hw tested. If you can't afford a $300 adoption fee, how are you going to afford taking care of the animal for 10 or 12 years?
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    Just wanted to second the vet office/tech idea - I was at my vet today, and saw an ad on their bulletin board for a 1-year-old yellow lab needing a home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guin View Post
    If you can't afford a $300 adoption fee, how are you going to afford taking care of the animal for 10 or 12 years?
    I understand the basic idea here is that animals cost money and the purchase price is the least of it, but come on. $300 is NOT cheap; when we pretend it is, we're pretending everyone is out there living on their credit cards and living way beyond their means, so why not spend money wisely on a vetted dog rather than on a splurge at the casino or an impulse pair of shoes. Many people are not living like that; they can't reasonably afford a $300 adoption fee for a dog, but that doesn't mean they won't take good if basic care of the animal. It bothers me that the better rescues and shelters seem to be pricing themselves out of the realm of poorer people. The last thing a lower-income family needs is to get thrown into the shark pit of a bad shelter, where indifferent workers can't be bothered to help them and bleeding-heart volunteers are more concerned with saving whatever dogs are present than with creating a happy dog/human match.



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    I knew of a so-called rescue that would get Walmart parking lot giveaways, and Craigslist finds, bill them as rescued, and charge over $400 for them. These dogs had zero vet care, worming, not neutered, and I know of several people that got sick dogs from this person. Her views on how and why dogs developed diseases like parvo were totally ridiculous, and fortunately she gave up 'rescue', because it was a total money maker for her. She left town without giving foster homes a penny (despite promises of repayment) and left a bunch of people trying to get credit on their taxes for the money they put into puppies they fostered, because they thought it was a deducible expense (they were duped too). This person has done this over and over, and no one seems to stop her for long either. She had very few expenses because she had very little expense (bought the cheapest food available) and operated out of her rental home. The only thing that stopped her was the animal control and codes enforcement people nailed her for running an unlicensed business, and she was neglecting the dogs-I wish someone could have done more about her, but she'll be one of the whacko rescues people run into again I'm sure.

    Some people are animal hoarders that adopt nothing out, or in it for the money like that one. Legitimate rescuers must tear their hair out when they run across people like this. I applaude the ones on here and all over the country that devote themselves to rescuing animals.
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    If you can't afford the $300 adoption fee, how are you going to afford the $500 vet bill? It happens, you know.

    I have pet health insurance on all my new guys. I didn't on my previous dogs and spent a fortune in emergency bills on occasion. A check-up at the vet, including heartworm test, microchip and 6 months of heartworm meds was over $200 (and my vet is not expensive). I think $300 for a spayed/neutered, microchipped dog that is heartworm negative and up on all vaccination is a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vacation1 View Post


    I understand the basic idea here is that animals cost money and the purchase price is the least of it, but come on. $300 is NOT cheap; when we pretend it is, we're pretending everyone is out there living on their credit cards and living way beyond their means, so why not spend money wisely on a vetted dog rather than on a splurge at the casino or an impulse pair of shoes. Many people are not living like that; they can't reasonably afford a $300 adoption fee for a dog, but that doesn't mean they won't take good if basic care of the animal. It bothers me that the better rescues and shelters seem to be pricing themselves out of the realm of poorer people. The last thing a lower-income family needs is to get thrown into the shark pit of a bad shelter, where indifferent workers can't be bothered to help them and bleeding-heart volunteers are more concerned with saving whatever dogs are present than with creating a happy dog/human match.
    And what happens when the dog gets hit by a car and needs surgery for a broken leg? I suppose you could just shoot it because the vet billl was too expensive, and go back to the "shark pit" shelter for another free dog. If you can't save up $300 for an adoption fee, you need to reassess how you are going to afford to keep the animal. This has been discussed at great length on the horse portions of this board, as this is not a dog-exclusive issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MunchkinsMom View Post
    This guy in CT looks like he needs a home:

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19912996

    I have a good friend that fosters for the rescue that has this dog listed, and she tells me that the fees ($300.00) do go towards the vet bills, feed, etc, and also towards paying fees to get other dogs out of the kill shelters.

    Some other pups (13 weeks) that they have fostered out and available:

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19522558

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19521734

    http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/19522595

    9 females and 2 males in the litter!
    OMG, poor Solomon. Prayers that all of the unwanted dogs find those who will love them.
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    Also on Petfinder under the Classified section up at the top if you click it opens up an Adoptable Pets window. These dogs are usually being rehomed by their owners. I have found some really wonderful dogs there whose families are moving, have lost their houses, and other reasons. I got our lovely chocolate lab years ago this way. he's now a therapy dog bringing lots of smiles with his big wagging tail.



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    Try Mainline Animal Rescue. mlar.com Rescue is run by Bill Smith. He started handing dogs out of the back of his car at a dog park in Radnor but now has a nice facility out in Chester Springs. Usually has labs and lab mixes. It can be a real PIA to get him to call you back BUT if he does and you get approved the dog is free or at least they used to be. A donation is appreciated and you will continue to receive yearly solicitations for money but you don't have to donate.

    They do have a particular geographic area they like to stick to - ie they like a "good" address so if your mailing address is Coatesville be sure to let them know it is a farm or something - yes, they really are like that.



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    There is a free AKC registered black lab pup in Ocala:

    FREE TO GOOD HOME. 4 month old black male labrador puppy. Crate trained. Blackie needs a forever home. He likes to walk beside you and sit near you are reading. Plays outside during the day. He is good with other dogs. He is a real little sweetheart. AKC registered. Good temperment. Would make a great companion or service dog with proper training.
    For the phone number, go to this website, scroll down to the Free dog section:

    http://ocala4sale.com/animals/dogs-for-sale.php
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    I'm confused.....You're looking for a lab?!...Didn't you just have a post not long ago on your FB about a lab that needed a home?? .... Call me Captain obvious but why didn't you just take in that one?
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    you're not willing to pay $300 for a dog? why?
    my most recent dog (year old now) was shipped up from a kill shelter in the south in utero, and I was quite content to pay the $250 adoption fee- the rescue had to ship the mother up, vet her, keep her and the pups for weeks, and give all the first rounds of shots and deworming. I'm sure they lost money on the deal.
    I know someone who took an owner-giveaway off craigslist and the dog turned out to have some serious expensive health problems the former owner quietly didn't say anything about.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Xctrygirl View Post
    Hi guys,

    We are looking into taking in another dog. The question I have is where can we look online that will help us with this search.

    We'd love a lab, over 8 months old full bred prefered but we're realistic, a close mix could be fine.

    I have looked at Craigslist, Pet Finder, Petango and Ebay Classifeds.

    What bothers me is that there seems not to be a basic site where owners can get rid of their dogs without a potential new owner having to spend in excess of $200. I get that rescues need to cover their expenses. I am a bit shocked to see fees of over $300 in some places for a mutt. I can do math and having cared for my dogs I know what vaccines and spay/neutering cost. So I am kindof wondering what those "rescues" are doing with 50+ animals at $300 a pop!


    Anyway... off the rant. Aside from Craigslist, am I missing some site online to help me look for a direct from owner dog?

    ~Emily
    Someone want to show me where I said I couldn't afford a $300 fee????

    I didn't say that. I could afford it, but I have moral reservations about spending $300 on a mutt. My younger dog just came home from a 2 day hospitilization for a relapse with her pancreatic insufficieny. I paid $1200 for that.

    I am fully aware of incurred expenses. That's why both my 3.5 yr old mutt and my 11 yr old mutt have VPI insurance. Full coverage. That's why they get routine vet visits and are fed decent food. That's why I invest $200 per 6 weeks of Taz's pancreatic meds. To provide for their needs with the best I can give.

    But let me be very clear. None of the $$$ I spend makes me a good owner. It makes me a responsible owner. A good owner is not dictated by dollars spent. A good owner knows to spend time with, play with and emotionally care for the needs of their dogs. I know tons and tons of people who feed the best food they can, who vaccinate themselves and who skew their budgets as tight as possible so their dogs have their basic needs met. I do my best to be a good and responsible owner.

    I am not trying to start a war here. I am only saying that I, like a lot of my friends, believe that if you need to get rid of an animal yourself, you should be looking for the best home for them. Not the best home for them that can also pay you a re-homing fee of multiple hundreds of dollars on an animal that isn't working for you. If you took the risk and it didn't pan out, then why is the new owner responsible for paying you back? (Individual homes only... Rescues not included in this sentiment. My comments are based off the "re-homing" fees found on Craigslist and one rescue I saw that seemed a little off, and it seemed not to be a real rescue.. but more like the one described early. Shady woman etc)

    When we buy horses I am not paying the owner for their bridle, saddle, shoeing and injections. I am paying for the walking value of the horse on the day. Why should it be any different with smaller animals????

    Thanks to all who have given me links to shelter, rescues etc. I will look through them and keep checking CL, and my local vet clinic.

    And fyi... I haven't ever given one away. I make lifelong commitments with my dogs. That's why I am taking my time and trying to find the right dog, who is not a young puppy to fit into our small herd. I am absolutely considering dogs over 5 years old. And I won't waste people's time if I don't find myself interested in a dog.

    And fyi, since it was mentioned... The lab I posted about on Fb the other day had an issue that would not have worked in our situation. So I offered to help the owner. And the same day I posted pics and a bio about him on my Fb page, he got a new home through a friend of mine. I offered to help the owners and in return the dog is living the life of Riley. Complete with a home where they open a second swimming pool (not the plastic kind) just for their dogs.

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    Wrote out a slightly different post but wanted to edit after rereading your last post.

    I can sort of see what you're saying ONLY if you're referring to individual pet owners wanting $300 for a rehoming fee on craigslist. Sort of...

    Still, how are you to know if the person posting on craigslist is a "responsible" type or not? It's hard. Perhaps the person has taken on a stray, fully vetted it, and also wants to help assure a good home. Yes, money isn't everything, but it's REALLY important. A home visit combined with a higher fee can really help ensure the pet is going to a responsible owner.

    Perhaps it is an irresponsible owner who's trying to recover the cost of buying a dog that was a horrible choice for them. Who knows. If you go meet with them, that can help you figure it out.

    I completely disagree that a reputable rescue can't or shouldn't charge $300 for a dog. Also, I have never seen a rescue where a purebred was priced notably higher than a mutt. I have, on occasion, seen horse rescues where a horse with more training under its belt (perhaps put there by the rescue) has a slightly higher fee than an unbroke 2 year old. I don't think that's unfair. I have also seen groups price "special needs" pets a bit lower in order to get them out of a stressful kennel situation, knowing that they are less attractive to most potential adoptors. They are usually incurring a big loss on these animals no matter what they charge.

    I work with a local greyhound adoption group, and they charge $275 for their dogs (I believe the seniors are $225 or $250). If they just took in adoption fees or the donations that track owners sometimes send with their dogs, they would NOT be able to continue. They survive because of wonderful volunteers and a lot of member donations.

    Each dog gets fully vetted. Dogs straight off the track usually need a spay/neuter, shots, a dental (expensive, and necessary because greyhounds have notoriously bad teeth), and many often need some retraining for an adoption to be successful. They work hard to get vets and trainers to donate some of their services, but it's still quite expensive. They use donated kennel space, but they still do not make extra money on the adoption fees.

    This group works very hard to foster every dog that they can, and they cover the fostering costs. They do home visits and extensive interviews, but a higher adoption fee can be helpful in sorting out the serious from the not serious. This group takes back every single dog they adopt out, if needed. $275 is nothing. My recent greyhound adoption was $200 - a BARGAIN: she had lived in a home for a year, so I had a solid history on her, and she came fully vetted. Worth every penny.

    Call me a snob, but money is a HUGE part of owning a pet. Love is important, but it doesn't fill the tummy. I would rather place a dog in a slightly aloof home where food and vet care is readily available than in a home where love is overflowing but money is tight enough that food might be hard to come by and vet trips will be almost out of the question.

    When the SPCA runs "sales" on black cats or puppies or whatever, it really makes me nervous. Sure, some really great owners come in during that time just because they saw the ad, but others come in that really CANNOT afford a pet any other time. I actually can't imagine how the SPCA charges such low prices for their adoptions. I know it's because they get funding and donations, but $75 for a dog is insanely low - even if it is "just" a mutt and they don't put in quite the same level of work as maybe a more expensive purebred rescue or no-kill rescue does.

    There is nothing wrong with wanting to avoid a high adoption fee. You're right that that does not mean you can't afford the day to day costs or the random costs that pop up. It's your money. However, there is also nothing wrong with high adoption fees.



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    Hey Emily -
    Can't help much with the one-owner models - but you might try contacting a breeder (I'd try to go with one you or some one you know already knows) and ask them if they have any placements that need a new home - 3 of the 6 dogs currently in my family (plus one belonging to a friend of mine) have been direct from their breeders - one needed a job of her own, two were older and one was a retired brood-bitch - all are purebreds, and we didn't pay a penny for any of them - just gas money. (It helps that we've had a "pre-existing" relationship with the breeders, though - that's why I'd ask friends for recommendations.)

    As far as shelters - I'd check the local animal control/SPCAs/county Humane orgs - you might not get papers, but I've seen some OBVIOUSLY purebreds come through the local shelters - a purebred Std poodle pup, there's a purebred St. Bernard currently at a shelter near me and I think I even recognize a purebred Husky at my county's shelter. The husky (if it's who I think it is), is a one owner model - but got surrendered because she's been going on walkabouts - the shelter staff may very well be able to give you a pretty good history (and at least why a surrender was surrendered) on some of their dogs.

    (If you're willing to take a little drive, the Georgetown location (it's on the way to Rehoboth Beach) of the Delware SPCA has several nice looking Lab/LabXs and their adoption fees are $100, includes basic vax, chip and spay/neuter: http://www.delspca.org/adoptions/adoptions )



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    Quote Originally Posted by vacation1 View Post
    Just wanted to second the vet office/tech idea - I was at my vet today, and saw an ad on their bulletin board for a 1-year-old yellow lab needing a home.



    I understand the basic idea here is that animals cost money and the purchase price is the least of it, but come on. $300 is NOT cheap; when we pretend it is, we're pretending everyone is out there living on their credit cards and living way beyond their means, so why not spend money wisely on a vetted dog rather than on a splurge at the casino or an impulse pair of shoes. Many people are not living like that; they can't reasonably afford a $300 adoption fee for a dog, but that doesn't mean they won't take good if basic care of the animal. It bothers me that the better rescues and shelters seem to be pricing themselves out of the realm of poorer people. The last thing a lower-income family needs is to get thrown into the shark pit of a bad shelter, where indifferent workers can't be bothered to help them and bleeding-heart volunteers are more concerned with saving whatever dogs are present than with creating a happy dog/human match.
    Maybe this will sound snarky but here it goes anyway...If someone can't afford a $300 pet adoption fee, I would have serious concerns about the adopter being able to maintain a large breed dog like a lab. Normal upkeep for a big dog is not cheap: Heartworm preventative, flea treatment, annual shots, food, a spay/neuter, teeth cleaning, etc. God forbid something serious happen to the dog- like an infection, or physical issue that would cost much more. It is just like horses...the cheapest part of owning a horse is buying the horse! Unfortunatley, in this economy, it is why many dogs are ending up going into the shelters, abandoned on side roads and highways or with shelters.

    I have done fostering of dog, and it isn't cheap- $200 to $300 dogs for a well cared, well treated and well adjusted rescue is 'priceless' in my book. I rescued a 'free' dog...$2,000 later after the heartworm treatment, tapeworm treatment and obedience classes- he wasn't so free anymore!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterOffRed View Post
    Maybe this will sound snarky but here it goes anyway...If someone can't afford a $300 pet adoption fee, I would have serious concerns about the adopter being able to maintain a large breed dog like a lab. Normal upkeep for a big dog is not cheap: Heartworm preventative, flea treatment, annual shots, food, a spay/neuter, teeth cleaning, etc. God forbid something serious happen to the dog- like an infection, or physical issue that would cost much more. It is just like horses...the cheapest part of owning a horse is buying the horse! Unfortunatley, in this economy, it is why many dogs are ending up going into the shelters, abandoned on side roads and highways or with shelters.

    I have done fostering of dog, and it isn't cheap- $200 to $300 dogs for a well cared, well treated and well adjusted rescue is 'priceless' in my book. I rescued a 'free' dog...$2,000 later after the heartworm treatment, tapeworm treatment and obedience classes- he wasn't so free anymore!
    We are in total agreement. A $300 vet bill is NOTHING! Shoot, my pet rats have had bills that high for a respiratory checkup. My male cat even more when we had a urinary tract scare. Our greyhound was vetted, but we took her in to get a full check up plus heartworm/flea meds shortly after we got her. I think that ended up being close to $200. Add to that buying a crate for a dog that big and all of the other necessities (food, bowls, collar, beds), and we spent a LOT more than her $200 fee... My husband and I are pretty well off compared to the "standard" household income in the US, and I can't imagine trying to take care of the animals we have making anything less.

    Again, to the OP: I don't think the fact that you don't want to pay $300 means you can't afford that if necessary. I just don't think it's unreasonable for a rescue (or an individual who's served as a rescue-of-one) to charge a high fee to help cover costs AND to help ensure a financially sound home.



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    but I have moral reservations about spending $300 on a mutt.
    and what exactly does this mean?

    you do realize that even "mutts" require a significant outlay of money to whelp and raise to an adoptable age- I've heard that an "accident" breeding, handled rather negligently and not requiring a c-section or other extreme vet care, can cost well over $200 per pup to whelp, raise, get dewormed and first shots before they can be placed.

    when your free mutt needs more than $300 worth of vet care it's too much?

    Besides, if it's just the "mutt" factor you can get purebreds from rescues for that $300 adoption fee instead of paying $1500+ for a well-bred dog from a breeder.

    There's been a lot of studies showing that people who get "free" dogs are less likely to care for them properly and much more likely to discard them than people who have to pay money for them, which is one reason most rescues nowadays insist upon their fee- it's steep enough to give the dog value, yet small enough that practically anyone who can afford to care for a dog can afford it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bort84 View Post
    We are in total agreement. A $300 vet bill is NOTHING! Shoot, my pet rats have had bills that high for a respiratory checkup. .
    OT - but wow! I love my vet who removed tumors from my rats for $50 because he didn't think he should charge more than that for an animal that was sold as a "feeder".

    Carry on.



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