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    Angry Proposed Nevada Bill Threatens to Take Away Water from Wild Horses & Burros

    From the Reno Gazette-Journal



    ASPCA opposes bill that would deny water to Nevada mustangs
    3:51 PM, May. 10, 2011 | Comments
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    Frank X. Mullen Jr.
    fmullen@rgj.com

    The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals has joined wild horse advocates in opposition to an Assembly bill that they say would deny access to water for wild horses and burros in the state.

    AB-329 would change the definition of “wildlife” in state water rights laws to specifically exclude wild horses and burros but include all other animals, birds and fish, “found naturally in a wild state, whether indigenous to Nevada or not and whether raised in captivity or not,” according to the bill.

    “While couched as a neutral water appropriation bill, AB-329 was clearly drafted to have the cruel and illegal result of depriving wild horses and burros in Nevada of their access to water,” wrote attorney Bruce Wagman of Schiff Hardin LLC, who represents the groups, in a letter sent Monday to Gov. Brian Sandoval and the Senate.

    “Contrary to the claims of …supporters, this proposed law could have a catastrophic impact on wild horses and burros, who depend on these natural water sources for survival.”

    The American Wild Horse Preservation Campaign joined the ASPCA in opposition to the measure. The bill passed the Assembly in a 35-7 vote in March and is awaiting a hearing before the Senate Natural Resources Committee.

    The bill’s sponsor, Assemblyman Pete Goicoechea, R-Fallon, has said he introduced the bill at the request of cattlemen and hunters from rural northeastern Nevada. Those groups have traditionally viewed wild equines as competition for commercial livestock grazing and game animals on public lands.

    Betsy Dribben, vice president of ASPCA Federal Affairs, said the bill, if passed, would conflict with federal wild horse protection laws. She said the measure is moving through the Legislature without any analysis.

    “This bill is trying to do covertly what both the public and federal law oppose doing, causing injury or death to wild horses,” Dribben said. “(Nevada lawmakers) need to take a closer look at what this bill will mean to the state and federally.”



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    this old hat again?

    Didn't we have that already?
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    Try setting your broomstick to fly at a lower altitude.
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    Yes, they are going to put horse and burro eating pits near all water sources (that magically don't trap wildlife) so they can't get to the water.

    Seriously, don't read their convenient interpretation of the Bill, read the actual bill and the water act of nevada (nevada has limited water, so businesses/farmers have to apply for water rights).

    What I got from the two bills was more that they don't want a "sanctuary" to come in and create a population exploision of feral horses and burros, so these sancturies would have to apply for water rights just like farmers. Another bill means that population control of feral burros and horses is the responsibility of the state. Which makes sense when you consider that it is the state that would be ultimately responsible for the feral animals if the sanctuary goes bankrupt or otherwise ceases to function.

    Nothing seems out of line to me.



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    Brigetah1, There are many of us that are sick over this, but this thread will likely turn into a train wreck. I love this forum, but it is decidedly not mustang friendly. I, personally, don't really understand those who love some horses but not all.
    "The captive bolt is not a proper tool for slaughter of equids they regain consciousness 30 seconds after being struck fully aware they are being vivisected." Dr Friedlander DVM & frmr Chief USDA Insp



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    Quote Originally Posted by ptownevt View Post
    I love this forum, but it is decidedly not mustang friendly. I, personally, don't really understand those who love some horses but not all.
    Now that is a creative way of twisting it.



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    I love cats so maybe I should start a "Save the Feral Cats of Alberta!" Campaign.

    After all cats helped save mankind from the plague, they helped keep our grains and feed safe from rodents, they even help protect us from the Hanta virus!

    Cats have done all this, yet we continue to trap them, spay/neuter them and lock them in little cages. Some, if they are lucky end up in homes, but so many people that adopt these cats don't care for them in a way that respects their wild heritage.

    We should let the cats be cats and run wild and free!

    ...oh....wait....love = responsibility, which means not only being responsible to the animal you love, but making sure you are responsible towards others that are affected by your decisions. making sure that "saving" your beloved creature does not impact the sustainable ecology and economy of a given region, and that your love isn't blind....you equally see how the suffering that comes with the freedom as you see the moments of prettiness.

    To selfishly love the idea of the free mustang at the expense of the wellbeing of the ecology and economy, and even of the mustang itself, is short sighted...go get glasses and see the big picture.



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    Wonderful post CHT.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CHT View Post
    I love cats so maybe I should start a "Save the Feral Cats of Alberta!" Campaign.

    After all cats helped save mankind from the plague, they helped keep our grains and feed safe from rodents, they even help protect us from the Hanta virus!

    Cats have done all this, yet we continue to trap them, spay/neuter them and lock them in little cages. Some, if they are lucky end up in homes, but so many people that adopt these cats don't care for them in a way that respects their wild heritage.

    We should let the cats be cats and run wild and free!

    ...oh....wait....love = responsibility, which means not only being responsible to the animal you love, but making sure you are responsible towards others that are affected by your decisions. making sure that "saving" your beloved creature does not impact the sustainable ecology and economy of a given region, and that your love isn't blind....you equally see how the suffering that comes with the freedom as you see the moments of prettiness.

    To selfishly love the idea of the free mustang at the expense of the wellbeing of the ecology and economy, and even of the mustang itself, is short sighted...go get glasses and see the big picture.
    Well said, thank you.



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