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  1. #21
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    In ranch country dogs are almost always in just about any vehicle. The ranchers have breakfast at the cafe at the local casino....there may be 20 trucks lined up out there with a BC or Aussie or heeler laying on the tool box or in the front seat in almost every one of them. My Aussies (one or the other or both) usually ride with me. However, they do not get out of the car and they both know "get in back and lay down" and will lay quietly in the back of the jeep no matter where we are. A few ranchers have dogs that will jump up on a car or truck but most have pretty nice vehicles themselves so have usually got the dogs trained. I have a lot more problems with the folks from town that do come out and expect that I'll be happy with their dog or kids running around....not.....keep 'em in the truck. I don't care if they bring 'em...just keep 'em controlled and in YOUR truck or car.
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    I never take my dogs to someone's property without an invitation for them and hate it when people bring dogs to my property without asking. One very close family friend brings her bitch with her and gets my dogs worked up. (All my boys are neutered, her dog isn't.)

    Oh, and I also hate it when people say 'but you have X number of dogs. What's one more?' They seem to think that just because I have four dogs, that means any and all canines are welcome on my land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coloredcowhorse View Post
    In ranch country dogs are almost always in just about any vehicle. The ranchers have breakfast at the cafe at the local casino....there may be 20 trucks lined up out there with a BC or Aussie or heeler laying on the tool box or in the front seat in almost every one of them. My Aussies (one or the other or both) usually ride with me. However, they do not get out of the car and they both know "get in back and lay down" and will lay quietly in the back of the jeep no matter where we are. A few ranchers have dogs that will jump up on a car or truck but most have pretty nice vehicles themselves so have usually got the dogs trained. I have a lot more problems with the folks from town that do come out and expect that I'll be happy with their dog or kids running around....not.....keep 'em in the truck. I don't care if they bring 'em...just keep 'em controlled and in YOUR truck or car.
    And a lot of these dogs are in flat bed trucks but are very well trained and usually NEVER leave the truck without word from the owner.
    There's one girl at my school who had her dog on the back of the truck during class (3 hours long), and the dog had his water and was very content to sit there and never leave. One time I walked out of class and I had parked next to her, and the dog was chilling in the shade of the truck, but I didn't want him/her to get hit, so I just looked at the dog and said "load up" and the dog went "Yes m'am" and jumped back in the truck.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kookicat View Post
    I never take my dogs to someone's property without an invitation for them and hate it when people bring dogs to my property without asking. One very close family friend brings her bitch with her and gets my dogs worked up. (All my boys are neutered, her dog isn't.)

    Oh, and I also hate it when people say 'but you have X number of dogs. What's one more?' They seem to think that just because I have four dogs, that means any and all canines are welcome on my land.
    It is amazing. Yes, we have lots and lots of dogs here, it's what we DO... But MrB- dog trainer- doesn't appreciate using his free/social time observing all the dogs, introducing the new ones properly, babysitting them all while everyone else socializes- which is usually what happens. I'll try to step in and help, too, but he's got skills I still lack with reading dogs!!

    We do understand though, that coming out to our place is a nice 'trip' for many dogs, and don't mind them coming along with their humans. I'd want to bring my dog if tables were turned. However, if there are more than two or so visiting dogs per visiting human, and I'm not informed of the "roster" beforehand, it feels pretty rude for them to bring a parade.

    Thankfully, our friends have taken note of me asking EVERY time an 'outing' to our place is planned, "How many/which dogs will you be bringing?" and now they'll tell me first, or ask- especially if it's a new/difficult dog they'd like to bring. Then I usually relay the info to MrB and see if he's feeling well enough or up to handling it. More often than not, he'll say yes, unless he's already busy.
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    ah, and i'll add for me bringing my dogs to private properties:

    of the handful of personal dogs, there are certain places I will and will not bring each. A few of them I know need more work and socialization, and typically I will leave that to MrB, or him and myself together. I'll only bring my most mellow, wallflower, nonshedding dog to friends' houses if he's already been there before or is expressly invited. Even then, I'll ask again- especially if the friends aren't huge dog lovers.

    The barn I'm at now is very relaxed- my trainer (the BO) invited any of my dogs to come over while I'm there. I'll only bring one of my dogs there- the one that is quiet, lazy, ignores horses (maybe gives them a googly-eyed look, but nothing more) and who is cat- and chicken-avoidant. I have a second runner-up for that position, but I'm afraid she would be WAY into the chicken, so she will only come when MrB is there to work with her- and it WILL be a 'training' trip- all his attention would be on her! Trainer said I could let my dependable guy off leash while he was with me, but i felt more comfortable leaving him tethered in a shady/out-of-the-way place while I rode and couldn't be able to get to him immediately if needed. Even when i wasn't riding, i still liked that I could see him, he could watch the goings-on, but i didn't have to worry about him and the other animals, or exactly how much horse poop he was going to vomit up in an hour or so!!
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    My puppy goes pretty much everywhere with me. However, I would never expect her to get out and roam around at someone's property/home. She has learned that she needs to stay in the car, and just lays down and waits for me. As the weather gets warmer, this will change my taking her with me if I am going out and running errands etc. My previous dog would stay in the car with all the windows completely down if I had to stop somewhere. She never barked or attempted to jump out. My pup is still young(7.5 months) and not quite that trained yet.I see poorly behaved dogs all the time (vet's office, pet store etc) One of the last times I was at the vet there were two different people who each had two ill behaved dogs. Instead of moving to a corner of the waiting room, one stood right in front of the entrance and the other stood in the middle of the waiting room. Also both of them had extendable leashes on the dogs so no real control.



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    Quote Originally Posted by starrunner View Post
    My MIL is a major culprit. She asked me if she could bring one of her dogs (she has 8) to my wedding. I politely said no. She brought the dog anyway. My family (I was busy getting ready!) knew that I had told her no and asked her politely to leave the dog in the car (short wedding and cool June morning, so that would have been OK). She brought the dog anyway and caused a lot of grief and unhappiness. She still hates me over it.
    I'm so sorry you married a little boy without a set of working balls. It's not your job to tell your MIL "leave the bloody dogs home or don't come". It's her little man's responsibility, she's HIS mommy! You are his family, she is a relative.

    If he's more worried about making her mad than making you mad, divorce him right now!...you don't need a child who doesn't care about you.

    Some people with dogs (and kids) forget or just don't care, that we don't find their little darlings: cute/talented/interesting/intelligent/noteworthy/funny or desired of being included in our lives. Of course, this just gets into the "leave your dog at home, the barn isn't a kennel" discussion...and we know where that always ends up. Popcorn? Popcorn ready?
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    Because people seem to think they are entitled. Entitled to do whatever they want, whenever they want and wherever they want. And the heck with you.
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    Trakehner--Naw, he's taken his stand more than once. She asked me before the wedding and I said NO. She begged my husband a few weeks before the ceremony and he said not at all. It was disrespectful. Kinda hard to control her actions from there.

    He did get her to put the dog back in the car before the reception (after she blew through my family before the ceremony, etc. It was just a matter of who found/saw her first and KNEW what I wanted).

    And in the last round of dog stupidity, he was the one that called her more than once saying no dogs at the foal shower. Maybe she learned? There was no dog at that event.

    She has gone on to a couple other relatives about how she needs a dog there (the wedding, other events), but not quite sure how she "needs" a dog.

    I think she just wants the attention at these sorts of events that a dog brings. Just because my SILs and other in laws cave in doesn't mean that I (or my husband) will.

    I just don't understand her line of thinking to begin with...

    It's sad though that my MIL can't realize that her stupidity (mostly dealing with the dogs) has created a giant wedge between her and her son. Wish she would realize she needs some help or something...



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    Quote Originally Posted by coloredhorse View Post
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    I cannot fathom anyone visiting an unknown person's home or business and just bringing their dog(s) along without making sure this is OK first.
    Exactly. If I had a child, under a certain age/level of responsibility, I can go to jail for leaving it alone. Wheras with a dog, I can leave it home. I would never dream of just bringing my dogs to someone's house unless I knew, in advance, they were aware I had them and were okay. Even then I'd have to consider it as Puff can be a bit nervous and Tucker is a classic corgi buttinski. My parents'? Sure, they don't mind. My friend Laurie's? Puff has a standing invitation to visit any time. (Her husband offered to trade three cats for him, in fact. I declined.) Someplace I haven't been, let alone on a buisness visit to a barn? No way.



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    I bring my well-behaved dogs if they're invited; they are always leashed and never allowed to roam. Common sense. If appropriate, we'll bring an x-pen for them. We always clean up after them.

    If they're not invited - we don't bring them. I never assume anything.

    Occasionally there are exceptions (e.g. travelling) - in those cases, we *ASK* first, and certainly don't take it personally if the dogs can't come.

    Then again, I was raised to be respectful and have manners. I'm beginning to wonder if manners have gone the way of the dinosaurs...



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    If I had a child, under a certain age/level of responsibility, I can go to jail for leaving it alone.
    that's why they invented babysitters and daycare. You have no excuse for dragging your child around to unwelcoming/ dangerous sites.



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    Depending on the location, I will ask first if they are welcome. If yes and the owner is inviting, then they get to come along. However, if they are naughty or the owner changes their mind, they don't get to come back. If they are not welcome, they stay home.
    If we go out of town, they go to the kennel. They both hate horse shows, so they stay home when I show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coloredhorse View Post
    I take my dog to public places where dogs are welcome/allowed without seeking permission in advance.

    I take him to private residences where I already know he is welcome (e.g., family, close friends) when we are going for a multi-day visit; though he has an open invitation to accompany us to these homes/farms, I always call and ask permission ... who knows when something may have changed!

    I cannot fathom anyone visiting an unknown person's home or business and just bringing their dog(s) along without making sure this is OK first. (I rather feel the same way about children, but am willing to cut parents some slack since it is neither legal nor socially acceptable to leave young kids home -- loose or crated.) When I took boarders, I had a fairly liberal dog policy, but anyone who showed up with a dog and just let it bound out of the car unleashed generally went to the top of the "NOT a potential client list" and was told exactly why. Those who came to see the place, asked about the dog policy, asked if they could bring Poopsie to the initial appointment to visit, and obeyed my simple rules were more likely to make it onto the "potential client" list.

    One of my former dogs was so perfect in her behavior that I would take her with me to teach riding lessons at other farms. She stuck by my leg unless told to stay somewhere else; and she stayed there until she heard otherwise. Even this paragon of canine virtue never left my truck until I had the BO's approval.

    Sometimes you just have to wonder what people are thinking.
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    My two are easy going, well behaved, and very attentive. I *can* take them anywhere, but it doesn't mean that I should or do.

    Family and close friends, sure. But I call to check just in case. It should also be noted that they do the same thing with their dogs and my house.

    People I don't know so well..... depends. If they ask me to bring the dogs over then I start with my girl. She's not so rowdy going in to a new place the first time. And by rowdy I don't mean out of control and jumping all over everything, I just mean that my boy wants to check out all the corners and what's behind the chair..... I have to walk him through the house on leash first because he does have an issue with territorial marking (already established behavior when I got him at 4 years old, we have a system in place when going to new places now and it has eliminated the issue, but you don't mess with the system).

    It bothers me when people bring their dogs out to the barn because they tend to ignore their dogs once they get out there. Let them out of the car and forget they even brought them till it's time to leave. Meanwhile poopsie has gotten into all kinds of trouble chasing cats, chickens, pissing off the horses.... yea..... not happy thoughts.....
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