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    Default Which country would you live in, based on what they offer, beliefs, etc?

    SO and I were talking this morning about Libya and what a nut Ghaddafy (or however you spell it) is and how to deal with someone who bombs his own people. SO brought up that, though he IS a nut, as a ruler her offers free health care, and education, among others things, and he lives in a tent, not a palace. Granted, his son is a crazy AND greedy SOB who wants lots of palaces. But, one up on the US--he cares about his people enough to offer healthcare.

    We also have this conversation about Hugo Chavez, the crazy SOB who dictates Venezuela and likes to take money from his people. We've had conversations with a couple of Venezuelans who despise him. But, guess what, the Venezuelans also have healthcare for all! While we were on Curacao, a very poor Caribbean island just north of Venezuela that doesn't have much, we found out, though very poor, they make sure everyone has healthcare and an education.

    So, based on things like school systems, healthcare, infrastructure, where do you think is a good place to live? I know a lot of the European countries have higher taxes and healthcare, education through college free for all. I know logistically it's not possible or probably for most people to move, but, you get to play what I want here.

    Me, I think I'd go for what most of the Europeans are doing. I'm fine with higher taxes, less HUGE differences in classes, and healthcare, education, and things like that considered equal for all. And I'm really big on SECULAR countries that aren't into claiming to be religious. I am really sick of feeling like it's a feudal society with a bunch of aristocrats who have it all, and a growing slave class.

    (I live in a state with a HUGE budget deficit. The governor is trying to cut as much as he can and wanted to extend taxes to get it paid off. Republicans refused to allow the citizens to vote on it. So, things like K-12 education will be cut even more massively (personally we're going up to about 40 kids per class and losing our library in middle school) colleges will have HUGE raises in costs, and any program that has anything to do with helping people from the government side is gone. Sigh.)
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    Denmark...if they were just a bit further south..lol

    but really...Denmark
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    Denmark has the highest taxes in the world, and everyone gets all healthcare, full education, plus other things paid for. Because of that, people tend to do what they love, and there is less difference in classes of people because the high taxes even things out and people don't focus on money. Denmark is where people are the happiest of anyone in the world.
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    Ireland, because they have ponies and beer and pretty green grass



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    I'm getting pretty stoked about Costa Rica. No standing army, good education, great history of conservation, greenest country in the world, healthcare system ranked higher than the US, and 95% literacy rate.
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    New Zealand!

    Can't wait to get there some day.



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    New Zealand was the popular choice when my friends & I played this game on FB about a week or so ago. I could do NZ - nice TBs there...

    For me it *would* be the UK except that I do not like living in a secular country. That essentially leaves me with Ireland or Wales (Wales is equally secular to England but they just don't seem to give as much of a flip so long as you're a decent human being).
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    The United States of America!



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    USA!!!!! We have our problems, but it's a LOT better than many of the alternatives! And if you WANT to live elsewhere, who's stopping you?? Or as I tell the Yankees that come "down south" to live and start complaining, Last time I checked I-95 runs north as well as south!



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    US of A!! Hands down.



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    I'm pretty damned happy with Canada, although our winters are too long anywhere but in BC. But we have the US right there to snowbird in!

    Really, having lived in a couple of European countries, I'd be perfectly happy in much of western Europe as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by shawneeAcres View Post
    USA!!!!! We have our problems, but it's a LOT better than many of the alternatives! And if you WANT to live elsewhere, who's stopping you?? Or as I tell the Yankees that come "down south" to live and start complaining, Last time I checked I-95 runs north as well as south!
    That's my exact thoughts. If I really disliked the country where I lived, I'd move. People do it all the time.

    I guess no one is paying attention to all the rioting going on in those great socialist countries overseas.



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    New Zealand, can't wait to get back there!



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    Well, I grew up in France and now live in Canada. I like both countries. Some things are better in France, others better here! I miss Europe sometimes for the diversity. You travel a few hours and you are immersed in a different language/culture, etc. I have been in Canada so long now. It is really home. There are good and bad things, but I would think the positives win!



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    I really enjoy living in the USA. I do not know enough about any other country to say I would prefer to live there. I have toured some countries in Europe, but that's not the same as living there and in idle research on their politics, I do not feel that any other country has figured it out any better. Therefore, I prefer to stay where I am familiar and have family and friends around.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Beentheredonethat View Post
    SO and I were talking this morning about Libya and what a nut Ghaddafy (or however you spell it) is and how to deal with someone who bombs his own people.
    Why is bombing your own people 'nuttier' than bombing 'other' people?

    Either way, you purport to be bombing people who do not agree with you. Does it make a difference where they live, especially since you will be killing and injuring ordinary civilians, too?

    The US arms the Taliban, then bombs the Taliban. Sounds pretty nutty to me.

    (I don't support Gadhafi but I also don't support the US policy of endless war. And yes, I left because of it.)



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    1.) Norway
    2.) Germany
    3.) Sweden

    But those are just from the countries I've visited. What I make here in the South -- after 10 years experience in my business -- is about $3,000 more a year than Norway's minimum wage. Granted, you pay out the wazoo for food, alcohol and cigarettes -- among other things -- but then your healthcare is basically free, you'll have a decent pension when you retire, your education is paid for and just about every Norwegian under the age of 50 (60, even) speaks fluent English.

    Plus, it's pretty. Really pretty. Sweden's pretty much the same (If there's any Scandis around, I apologize for that gross generalization) and Germany just had a really awesome vibe when I was there. The cafes, the OMG-so-efficient public transportation.

    Quote Originally Posted by shawneeAcres View Post
    And if you WANT to live elsewhere, who's stopping you??
    Incredibly strict immigration laws. Sure, some people are lucky enough to marry someone or land a US-based job that takes them overseas, but for just a normal person, it's pretty hard.
    The dude abides ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by JER View Post
    And yes, I left because of it.)
    And you came to Canada, right?



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    JER--I agree.

    Go ahead and take topic any way you want, as everyone will, but the POINT was to note what kind of things you really LIKE about other countries.

    For example, I really like a country that takes care of it's people in many ways. I also really like diversity of people, well-educated people, many types of cultures and such. I really don't like having to put on zillions of layers of clothes to get out the door, so though while a lot of northern European countries fit the criteria on the first part, they don't on the dressing part.

    kateh--I forgot Costa Rica. I really like that mentality, too. I've been there several times, and it IS a really nice country.

    (For all the "oh, yeah, USA, move out of here crowd," the POINT is to get a perspective on other countries and see what we can learn, because, even if you think this country is wonderful, we can always be better, so how do we do that? What's important to us?)



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    Default Ireland

    Quote Originally Posted by bigstripedhALTER View Post
    Ireland, because they have ponies and beer and pretty green grass
    ^^^This ..... beer, ponies, and beautiful scenery.... what else do you need??
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