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  1. #21
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    Default They are fully adjustable

    Quote Originally Posted by Reagan View Post
    So you can't adjust them? Or you adjust them by tying them at different lengths to the dee's? I wonder if it would be a pain to tie on snaps at different lengths and leave them there. I may be making a trip to Home Depot soon! Thank you for the advice!

    Sorry OP for hijacking!
    I just tie them at different lengths. I actually cheat and "mark" the different lengths I need by wrapping a thin strip of electric tape where I usually "tie"

    You could totally cheat more by attaching little clips, maybe a like 4 inch intervals to keep things easier?

    I just eyeball it.

    They DO allow for lateral, more so than side reins. They have way more freedom than side reins. I don't do mine up tight at all.

    And if your horse is lugging that hard on them, that electric tape-wrapped ends don't hold? Well that's a scary amount of pressure/leaning the horse is doing. I never have mine that tight at all. It's just a gentle reminder to go long and low and stretchy down and out. (I use the lunge whip to encourage the hind end forward)

    Similar to the Pessoa Rig I guess. But on that,t he butt strap does more "encouraging" the behind.

    A skilled lunger can do the same w/ just the Vienna Reins.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuatx55 View Post
    http://www.ultimatedressage.com/foru...p?f=1&t=202647

    Personally I feel VR (which go through the legs) act too much like draw reins and don't allow enough lateral flexibility. It can work on some horses but also leads to BTV quite easily.

    I personally prefer the "triangle/balance/Lauffer" rein that doesn't go through the leg but rather attaches in a V (top ring surgingle-bit-bottom ring surgingle SAME SIDE).

    The balance reins allow the horse to stretch but also don't restirct so much. I found mine for 20 bucks at Schneiders. It also seems much safer as horses are known to get a leg through Vienna and draw reins.

    I also use standard side reins with elastic. It really depends on the horse and where they are at with their work and if they naturally go above or below the bit.
    Thanks for the link. I'm also interested in what you call Lauffer reins, and what's referenced on that link/Dover as balancing side reins. I'm wondering, however, if it is possible to use these with a saddle instead of a surcingle. I don't own a surcingle and wasn't really planning on buying one as I don't lunge a whole lot (and in this case, I would likely be lunging before I rode).



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    Quote Originally Posted by over the moon View Post
    Thanks for the link. I'm also interested in what you call Lauffer reins, and what's referenced on that link/Dover as balancing side reins. I'm wondering, however, if it is possible to use these with a saddle instead of a surcingle. I don't own a surcingle and wasn't really planning on buying one as I don't lunge a whole lot (and in this case, I would likely be lunging before I rode).
    I have (had? I can't seem to find them...) a pair of the balancing side reins and really like them since they let the horse figure out for itself where they need to go. I have used them with both a surcingle, and with a saddle by clipping the top on the saddle dee, and using a loop of baling twine between the split ends of the girth.



  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reagan View Post
    How did you do this? I have a big (17.1hh) TB mare who is very, very long and my Vienna's don't fit her. I can get them on very tightly, but I absolutely do not want to start her like that, especially with her "you can't force me to do nothin'!" personality. I was thinking of trying to create some kind of extension so how, maybe loops around the girth which I then loop the reins through... But, I think my best option may be to make my own now that you brought it up! It is an ingenious idea, I never would have thought of that!
    I used a measuring tape to figure out about how much shock cord I would need and bought a bit more than that. I bought a set of snaps that I tied on to either end of the shock cord with a bowline knot (google bowline knot to see) each end of the shockcord attaches to the lower surcingle loop. I bought two pieces of hardware that snap to the bit and the cord runs through. I bought two more snaps that attach to the upper surcingle loop. I just adjust as needed and knot the extra cord at the top of the surcingle. This is super simple but more fancy versions could be made. The shock cord encourages my girl to stretch into the contact. I just hate to pay big bucks for something I can make myself! It works well and love that it was cheap!



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    I can't believe I'm doing this... If you want to make your own and make them adjustable attach your clip to the end (one small enough to go through your surcingle rings.) then tie or sew several round rings to the cord so that you would run the clip through the surcingle ring and clip it back to one of the rings on the cord.



  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by over the moon View Post
    Thanks for the link. I'm also interested in what you call Lauffer reins, and what's referenced on that link/Dover as balancing side reins. I'm wondering, however, if it is possible to use these with a saddle instead of a surcingle. I don't own a surcingle and wasn't really planning on buying one as I don't lunge a whole lot (and in this case, I would likely be lunging before I rode).

    Lauffer reins are another name for triangle/balance reins. I don't think you can use them correctly attached to a saddle. Vienna reins can be used w/a saddle.

    I see a lot of used surcingles at tack sales, keep an eye out. Otherwise I just use regular side reins when I'm going to ride after.

    http://www.classicaldressage.co.uk/h...nna_reins.html



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