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  1. #1
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    Default That bit is legal - If anyone cares. Straight from the USEF.

    Is this bit legal for 2011? The rules confuse me. They don't picture a bit of this type and refer to "rotating cheek pieces." I would call this a rotating mouthpiece. Don't know if that's semantics or if they only mean rotating on the other axis.

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    Last edited by fatorangehorse; Mar. 1, 2011 at 04:26 PM.



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    Where in the rules do you find a reference to "rotating cheek pieces"?

    All I can find is "A curb bit with rotating lever arm is also allowed."

    But the illustrations certainly seem to refer to rotating in the other direction.

    The Dressage Equioment Booklet
    http://www.usef.org/documents/FormsP...entBooklet.pdf
    doesn't seem to provide any additional guidance.

    I suggest you call USEF or USDF for clarification.
    Janet

    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).



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    Default you're right. I quoted wrong

    It was "rotating lever arm." I will call. It seemed to me that they would overtly stated it either WAS or WASN'T allowed. They do specifically that it is for a snaffle.

    thanks



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    I have this bit and my horse loves it. He is very particular about his tongue and this bit gives it a lot of room. I have never showed in it and I would also be interested if it is legal.



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    I talked with the USEF office today. They researched and confirmed this is what is meant by "rotating lever arm". So it is in fact legal.



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    So, does the bit stay flat and really not have any curb action at all? Is that the purpose of this bit with the revolving arms that look like they rotate freely up and down if you put pressure on them?
    "Relinquish your whip!!"



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    I have one of these bits and my horse loves it too. It certainly does have curb action, it just doesn't allow the port to rotate and put pressure on the horse's tongue. The arms still apply pressure to the curb groove via the curb chain and the poll via the head piece, just as normal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fatorangehorse View Post
    I talked with the USEF office today. They researched and confirmed this is what is meant by "rotating lever arm". So it is in fact legal.
    Great to know.

    You might want to get it in writing/email and print it out so you an show it to the TD.
    Janet

    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).



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    I assume we're talking about for a double bridle? cause if not its not legal
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSprats Mom View Post
    I assume we're talking about for a double bridle? cause if not its not legal
    Seriously?? Um, thanks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Janet View Post
    Great to know.

    You might want to get it in writing/email and print it out so you an show it to the TD.

    Great idea!!



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