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  1. #1
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    Default Pony Breeders: What happens with oversized ponies?

    I have started dreaming again about my next dressage partner, a significant job change that might be coming might mean my dream hony will be in the near future. That said, my last shopping adventure turned up almost no ponies/horses in the 14.3-15.1hh range.

    My question to pony breeders is, what do you do with your large ponies that go significantly oversized? Are there just not that many that happen? Do you not advertise? Do mares just go back into breeding programs to be bred to smaller stallions? I keep hearing about this huge risk of oversized ponies, but can't find any!?



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    I've never bred an oversize pony.

    I've had two clients with HUGE Warmblood mares that bred to my stallion with the intention of creating small horses from the cross. I could PM you their details if you'd like. I think at least one of those fillies is/was for sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideagoldenpony View Post
    I've never bred an oversize pony.
    Same here. And none of our clients that have ever bred to our pony stallions have ended up with a hony either. That being said, we will be purposely breeding one "hony" for a 2012 foal. Watch, it will end up being under 14.2 HH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect Pony View Post
    My question to pony breeders is, what do you do with your large ponies that go significantly oversized? ?
    I like them with a gingersnap sauce.

    Tamara in TN
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    Just an offhand observation, but my vet and farrier do not charge less for working on smaller horses. The hay bill may be less.

    I'm someone with a small warmblood geldiung and now looking at an unrelated filly who may be staying smaller than the market ideal.

    There seem to be a lot of active threads right now on horses that are small.

    Not sure if the activity is only coming from a few posters, tho.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakstable
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    Not sure if the activity is only coming from a few posters, tho.
    It is.


    Ponies that go over have to have jobs too. It's not too terribly hard to find a buyer, depending on what it was bred to do - i.e. if it was bred to have a big step and it goes over, it should be able to get down the horse lines with no problem.
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    =Oakstable;5326532]Just an offhand observation, but my vet and farrier do not charge less for working on smaller horses. The hay bill may be less.
    just offhand but,my vet has to use 2 to 3 times the juice to make mine sleepy

    Tamara in TN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara in TN View Post
    I like them with a gingersnap sauce.

    Tamara in TN
    OK, now I just spit Diet Coke on the screen!



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    The small sized horses, say 15 hands, are a great size for driving but unfortunately driving people just won't pay what these horses are worth. A fabulous moving horse that can do the marathon would be a great CDE horse, but like I said the average driver won't pay for it.
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    I know Woodslands has an oversize section on their site.



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    We have had several of our sportponies go over pony and have found there IS a market for them. If they have good conformation and movement and go well under saddle they are very saleable. German Riding ponies can easily carry adults (not just petite). Our pony stallion Popeye went through his stallion testing ridden by men. The owners of our "honies" are doing well in competition. I'd rather see a petite adult on a pony that's over the size limit than on some 17.2H WB that they can't ride well due to the size issue.
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    My question to pony breeders is, what do you do with your large ponies that go significantly oversized?
    Bar-B-Q



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    Prices in dreamhorse for German Riding Ponies are respectable.



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    Personally, I like finding quality ponies who are over-sized, because they do become more affordable. You can still have a high quality equine, but not pay the price for a large pony. I have one 14.3 hh gelding at my farm and I really find him quite useful. He is big bodied, and can carry weight, thus accommodating a wide range of riders. He is who I choose as a "husband horse" for a friend who might ride 3 or 4 times a year.
    For lessons, and camps, and pony club riders - this size horse is quite ideal. It is what a lot of programs look for. Obviously this does not make a sellers breeding for the large pony division in hunter shows happy, but their is definitely a market for this size hony.



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    my new pony is 14'2 1/2.
    she is built like a tank, so can handle weight and will be an awesome trail mount at the very least. in my world, these types are preferred by my buddies who appreciate the smaller size for easy on and off, less room in the trailer, less feed, and just easier to work around.

    the ones who are incorrigable are indeed delish!



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    Quote Originally Posted by bizbachfan
    I know Woodslands has an oversize section on their site.
    And they now stand Meadowbrook's Special Edition.
    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver, Equine Insurance Specialist



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    I like them with a gingersnap sauce.

    Gosh Tamara, you told me it was a freshly slaughtered hog! Now I know why it doesn't taste the same every time I've tried to repeat it at home
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    I am glad you all are having fun with this thread, as it was mostly the intention. I was just dream shopping again and noticing once again that I can barely find a thing in the 14.3-15.1hh range. Wondering if they were all killed off like German Shepherd dogs with long coats...



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    I am glad you all are having fun with this thread, as it was mostly the intention. I was just dream shopping again and noticing once again that I can barely find a thing in the 14.3-15.1hh range. Wondering if they were all killed off like German Shepherd dogs with long coats...
    Honestly, I think people buy them and hide them. No-one wants to admit how much fun they are. I was looking for one in the just over 14.2 range because I thought I could get a great deal ... ha! Wal-Mart for ponies. That was not to be. Instead, I paid full price for a spoiled rotten Cob



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    Well ... there IS that vet in Quebec that will make that pesky 14.3-15hh "hony" a "pony" once again for a fee ... ...

    Once the stitches come out and the withers heal from being ground down the required 1-2 inches and the hair grows back, you'd NEVER know your "pony" was once a "hony" ... ... and you can easily get your permanent card too!

    Oh! And if you get an unmarked Paint and need a spot put on it to make Regular Registry with APHA instead of breeding stock, he has a catalogue of spots you can pick from and voila! When you leave your APHA foal will now have a nice new "natural" spot and you can now apply for your Regular Paint papers too

    He does VERY VERY well in this line of business too ...



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