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    Unhappy Austerity hits Irish horses

    "The formula 'Two and two make five' is not without its attractions." --Dostoevsky



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    That just about breaks my heart. At least their authorities are trying to come up with reasonable solutions to the problem. Sad, but probably in the animals' best interest.



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    I didn't read that article but 2 days ago there was one in the Daily Mail that I am sure is the same. I have posted in and off about this subject all year. It is shocking what has happened to horses here but it's animals in general. As in pets. I don't care what anyone says it is a throw away nation and even in good times I found care of some animals shocking.

    What's always repeated in each article is how this is ruining ireland's reputation as a horse loving country. I found very few people who loved horses, they loved the greed. And I dare anyone in this country to challenge me on that.

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    Not all Terri. Some tried to hang on to their horses at all costs as some on this very board are no doubt doing. Sometimes there is no alternative. Would you rather sell them to the knackers,watch them starve, or euth?. Those are some of the very real choices people even in this country are facing. How is that socialism working for everyone????



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    Ask any ac employee and they will tell you that it is happening here, everywhere. They are turning horses loose in Fla. or going to cattle auctions and while the trailer owners are occupied they throw the horses in the empty stock trailers. People trailering in for a trail ride only to come back to find their trailer with strange horses in it and no one in sight. We are headed down the same path as Ire. Don't think it can't happen here cause IT ALREADY IS!. It bugs me to no end when people say they can't bear to read an article or watch a video because it is just too horrible. BIG reason why this country is in the state it is in. If it is ugly or horrible or might impact them somehow in a negative way most just stick their head in the sand and not think about it.



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    What are you on about socialism? I was on about the situation before the crash. And that article states that big breeders cut back on breeding and others carried on as normal. Guess which ones care about and take care of their horses?

    And I agree with what the article says in having a place to surrender horses that they can't take care of for a humane end. So much better than starving or being set loose. It will be a service badly needed. But it will also be a place for people to dump their crap and they will still be breeding. That is wrong. For the last 2 Springs I heard rumors of breeders "putting down" healthy TB filly foals as soon as they were born. Then when I looked at the NH foal sale catalog and found maybe 10 percent fillies. I guess that's a conspiracy theory. Also doesn't help that SO's offer a free return if your mare has a filly. Those breeders rebred.

    There is few and far between the people that actually love horses. It was a living. It stopped paying for most some time ago. I was talking to a man yesterday who was on about this very thing. It galls him to no end to look at horses for sale that people won't give the basics to. And he wasn't on about broke people.

    Look it I've seen too much crap for you to tell me different. Loads have been hit by hard times and have tried to do the right thing. But many more decided to let animals fend for themselves instead of doing the humane thing.

    Terri
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    Yeah, I didn't get the socialism comment either.

    Basically, the story is just that when the "Celtic tiger" economy was booming, a lot of people bought horses and Ireland burnished its image as a horse-loving nation. But with the bottom falling out of the economy, a lot of people have simply let their horses loose to fare for themselves.

    Many of the pictures of loose horses in the article were taken on the outskirts of Dublin--so it's not like the ex-owners had been living on farms or deep in the countryside. These are horses that are now living and grazing (and may well soon be dying) alongside the major highways of the major urban area.

    Sure similar stuff happens in the U.S. all the time. I'm not saying it doesn't. But 20,000 loose horses in a small country like Ireland is much more noticeable, and does indeed go against the popular image of Ireland, particularly held in the U.S.
    "The formula 'Two and two make five' is not without its attractions." --Dostoevsky



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    I disagree that a governmental authority has to be established to deal with the problem. The indivual owners are quite capable of making the correct, if painful, choices. Giving them a "public out" is just bad social policy.

    The same is true here. We are just putting off the inevitable.

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    The problem is they will turn them loose or let them starve before parting with the money. I am all for a breeding liscense in this country and there was talk of one but pretty hard to enforce. The only people who would get one pay the bills anyway. The rest would just lie and wonder how stallion got loose with mares. So really that money would go to clean up the mess of people who shouldn't be breeding anyway.

    I had 2 foals this year and wasn't planning on selling either. One I would have sold when he went under saddle. But a reputable big breeder came along to buy a wheelbarrow and ended up buying Iggy as well because she loved him. He is a sporthorse. That market has taken a hit but it's the TB Market which is really to blame. Everyone was making money on bad horses from bad mares so more and more were bred with zero common sense.

    Terri
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    "I need your grace to remind me to find my own." Snow Patrol-Chasing Cars. This line reminds me why I have horses.



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