For those that don't have time to read the whole article or can't access it, the last paragraph is important so I'll post it here.
Barbara Boggs is a fighter and she has decided to seek justice. Have you been ripped off by Celeita Kramer? If so contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org. Individuals have failed to get justice, but if you all join together we can ensure that Celeita Kramer does not scam anyone else. We have created a page on FaceBook titled ‘Celeita Kramer ripped me off’ post your stories there the more complaints and evidence we can gather the better shot we have of winning a lawsuit and getting the horses in her care into a facility where there needs will be the number one priority.
Years ago, at least 9 years ago now, I agreed to haul a mare from Crossed Sabres to the new owner in SD (I did not know either person, was just looking for a rider as I was hauling an empty trailer to Montana).
Mare was supposed to be Standardbred, sound for light riding and currently used in a lesson program for one or two walk/trot lessons a day, quiet under saddle and got along with all other horses.
She was transported from the "rescue" to my place in KY. Got off the trailer with swollen, "lumpy" knees and dead lame. She immediately proceeded to bite and kick the other two mares in the small paddock I put her in.
I called the new owner in SD immediately but the outcome was that she took the mare anyway, $900 plus hauling for a mare that never ended up sound enough to ride. If I'm recalling this correctly, she tried to return the mare but the rescue either wouldn't take her or wouldn't give her the "adoption fee" back.
I couldn't find the above referenced Examiner article. Now I am curious. Been away from COTH. Howeverm someone recently PM'd me re: SWAP and I have info to share with whoever wants to pursue the illegal activites.
How very interesting. When I was looking for a horse last year I saw many rescues from crossed sabers advertised on Horseclicks. I've been a volunteer in dog and parrot rescue myself and was happy to consider a rescue horse. I looked at the CS application form and passed on that rescue. Why? It asked for my social security number and my debt to income ratio. Now I know that rescues want to try to anticipate any potential issues with an adopted animal, but nobody but NOBODY gets that kind of information from me. The application said something like the SS# was covered by a privacy act and I just LAUUUUGHED. I know that when I was processing applications the security of applicants' forms was a folder on the shelf in the living room. And to top that there was a processing fee required with the application. Really? You need my money to spend 30 seconds reading my form. PFFT.
I always thought it was too bad that the rescue was getting in the way of adoption with it's ridiculous form requirements, but now I see I would have likely gotten something other than was advertised.
I sent the person who has been necroing all these old threads a PM. Hopefully he or she will confine his or her activity to one or two instead of flooding the off course forum with old necroed Celita Kramer threads.
Eta: The person who has been necroing (aka bumping) all these old celita kramer threads sent me a very nice PM and seems to be very genuine. I recommended a few COTHers I know in person but if anyone else has a recommendation please PM her, she seems very nice and just wants a safe place to retire her horse. If we could please treat her nicely that'd be awesome
Last edited by Grataan; Jan. 1, 2012 at 12:44 AM.
Michael: Seems the people who burned me want me for a job.
Sam: A job? Does it pay?
Michael: Nah, it's more of a "we'll kill you if you don't do it" type of thing.
Sam: Oh. I've never liked those.