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  1. #1
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    Default New Service for Rating Horse Professionals

    Interesting. Trainers, facilities, farriers, and horse shows are included.

    http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/

    Rate My Horse PRO is the first decision tool that allows users to anonymously rate and review professionals in the horse industry. Rate My Horse PRO is educating consumers across all disciplines, while facilitating the promotion of horse professionals.
    FaceBook site:

    http://www.facebook.com/HorseTrainerRatings

    2.400 people have marked it "Like".
    Last edited by Mike Matson; Nov. 4, 2010 at 09:21 PM.
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    Would be great if it was a free service.



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    Or let you pay via paypal...

    No way I am entering credit card info on a site like that!
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    I think its a great concept and am considering doing one for professionals to rate owners/clients... For free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EqTrainer View Post
    I think its a great concept and am considering doing one for professionals to rate owners/clients... For free.
    Maybe one for rating CotH posters too.
    "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier



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    Good idea, but no way am I paying for something without having any idea of the quality and quantity of the information beforehand. It's only $5, but it's the principal of the thing too. What if I shell out $5 and find that there is no information about anyone in my area? Also, charging people to rate will mean that only the most pissed off with an axe to grind will likely bother to do so, which will skew results.

    It might be a better idea to let people view it a certain number of times for free so they can decide if it is worth the money or not. Make it free for people who provide ratings, but charge those who just browse after the initial trial period. The real value of the site is in the ratings and feedback provided by the users, not the actual existence of the site, so charging people who will rate is not appropriate from a business model perspective.

    Also, I agree with Lucassb, I'm not entering my credit card info on a new site I know nothing about.



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    If it is only $5, wouldn't this tempt the professionals to sign up multiple sock-puppets to praise themselves?



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    The site is free.... You pay so people can't go in multiple times. They call it identity verification below. Read the question and answer on the site...

    This was on COTH earlier this week. http://www.chronofhorse.com/article/...e-october-2010

    Rate My Horse PRO Website Launches


    Rate My Horse PRO launches a new all discipline online resource and decision tool that allows users to anonymously rate and review professionals (PROs) in the horse industry. This industry first will allow members to rate horse trainers, boarding stables, farriers, horse shows, and more across North America.

    Laura Hense’s show horse was taken by her horse trainer and sold through an out of state horse dealer without her knowledge. “I had been riding with him for quite some time and I thought I could trust him.” What she didn’t know is the trainer had a reputation, and a list of defrauded victims. Hense became another one of his statistics when she never saw her horse again.

    The number of horse professionals that intentionally prey on consumers is unknown since there are no such statistics in the horse industry. These summer 2010 news headlines are only a few of many that focused on horse industry professionals in trouble with the law.

    -Warrant: Convicted Horse Trainer Attends Same Horse Show as Victim
    -Horse Owners Disputing who owns Racehorse, Neon Light; FBI Looking into Sale
    -Woman in Horse Neglect Case is Charleston Horse Trainer
    -Virginia Large Animal Veterinarian Charged for Neglecting Horses
    -Sex Charges Filed in Case Against Ontario Boarding Facility Co-Owner
    -Florida Horse Trainer tells Owner Horse Dies; then Sells it
    -Former Equestrian Trainer gets 22.5 years for Exploitation, Child Porn
    -Florida Riding Instructor Sentenced for Molesting 5-yr-old Female Student

    Rate My Horse PRO is educating consumers, while facilitating the promotion of horse professionals who conduct business with integrity. Professionals are able to complete a detailed business profile for free. The site also features a proprietary preference tool to match consumers with professionals. Those professionals who operate at a higher standard will grow their business with Rate My Horse PRO. The site will also give today’s professionals insight into their customers’ satisfaction levels like never before, so they can continuously improve, strengthening their business.

    Rate My Horse PRO also offers several unique features new to the online ratings world including identity verification. This insures each rating is unique, to protect the validity of the ratings process.

    Hense says, “I began riding to enjoy horses; it should not be stressful and cause grief, like it did in my situation. I hope Rate My Horse PRO makes the horse industry more honest and will empower consumers.”
    Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA



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    I was curious and paid the $5 to see what was back there. The questions you answer to rate a pro are very in depth, thoughtful and clearly created by knowledgable horse people. At the end there is a space to enter more info about the pro your commenting on but I don't know if that info appears to everyone.

    I don't know where they collected the list of pro's in my area but they had most of them and some I've never heard of. There were two not on the list- one who is superb and another who should be out of business.

    It has all the possibilities to become an good resource, especially if your moving to an area and do not have a horse contact. Likewise, if a trainer starts to jack around with people the problems can be outted before too many people get hurt.



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    I was impressed with the list of trainers in my area as well (albeit the saddle seat trainers are ALL missing, and if there's ONE effing discipline... !!!).

    I haven't joined yet for the same reasons others have expressed (my BANK account got hacked via iTunes a couple of months ago, so I'm psychotically paranoid now). I wonder, though, if it would work to get one of those refillable "credit" cards and use that for payment? I keep meaning to get around to getting one anyway, to use for online purchases without compromising my PayPal or bank accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanabe View Post
    If it is only $5, wouldn't this tempt the professionals to sign up multiple sock-puppets to praise themselves?
    I don't think they would pull a Dizzywriter. They would need multiple credit cards under different names with different addresses in order to make use of the site like that. The only way they could do that is if they stole credit card information from clients or others.
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    Lex, all they have to do is have friends do it for them. Unless the reviews are not anonymous, this would work.



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    Quote Originally Posted by War Admiral View Post
    I was impressed with the list of trainers in my area as well (albeit the saddle seat trainers are ALL missing, and if there's ONE effing discipline... !!!).

    I haven't joined yet for the same reasons others have expressed (my BANK account got hacked via iTunes a couple of months ago, so I'm psychotically paranoid now). I wonder, though, if it would work to get one of those refillable "credit" cards and use that for payment? I keep meaning to get around to getting one anyway, to use for online purchases without compromising my PayPal or bank accounts.
    You could use one of those. They are nothing more than debit cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanabe View Post
    Lex, all they have to do is have friends do it for them. Unless the reviews are not anonymous, this would work.
    It's possible but highly unlikely for various reasons. First and foremost, most horse professionals don't have friends in the traditional sense. It's a solitary and highly competitive profession where you are more than likely to have acquaintances instead of true friends. I've seen it firsthand here in Northern VA. Second, it is highly unlikely that anyone who isn't very close to a professional would do it without incentive or personal gain. Even if they were close, there's a good chance they wouldn't do it anyway simply because they are lazy, don't like using computers, or are paranoid about Internet credit card use. As for the reviews, they are not really anonymous. Every review is tied to a user account which is tied to information that has to be verified. Unless someone steals credit card information, you won't likely see too much puffing up of reputations.
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    Rate my Rating Sevice:

    I like the concept but found it useless for my area. Hopefully it will get better with time.

    I'd save the $5 for a time to allow it to get better established.



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    Is announcing a website like this allowed on the COTH forum? I thought this would be considered advertising which must be paid for?



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    Default Great Idea!

    I've been thinking the horse world needed a website like this foryears! I'm so glad someone actually developed the concept. I do wish it were free. I personally do not mind the $5 fee, but I think it will discourage alot of people from using the site. And a site of this nature is only useful if it receives tons of input. Hopefully enough people will see the benefit and pay the 1 time fee! I signed up and discoveredt here are way more horse professionals in my area than I ever knew!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbow View Post
    Rate my Rating Sevice:

    I like the concept but found it useless for my area. Hopefully it will get better with time.

    I'd save the $5 for a time to allow it to get better established.

    Your right, it will be useless if everyone sits on their thumbs. How do you think the professionals got in the system??? Customers added them... you're right, you better hang on to your five bucks...
    Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA



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    Well, I bit the bullet and paid the $5.00 fee. The list of professionals for my area was great but nobody has rated them yet. So, right now it looks like a waste of money. I wonder if it will take off or, like others have said, people will stay away due to the fee. I understand it is new so we will have to see in the next year or so what happens.



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    Wow....lots of posts today. I'll do my best to answer any questions you might have.

    The concept for something like this has been discussed and needed for decades, but until now, no one had moved forward with the idea. Rate My Horse PRO has been in the works for more than two years. The info that is already listed (farms, trainers, etc) was in fact submitted by folks just like you from the USA/Canada. The site went live earlier this week but was still in testing, although people have been joining. RMHP announced officially that the site is live this afternoon on its Facebook page. We are relying on you to utilize the site to add professionals and rate them. Ratings are not visible at this time since this is a data collection period. There will be a Grand Launch soon when all ratings and other site features will be unveiled. Professionals are encouraged to get signed up, and involve their customers.

    There are many security features in place. This was not something that was thrown together over a weekend. Did we expect skeptics and negative comments? Of course. This is something totally new to the industry.

    Many of the questions that were asked are answered here: http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/learn-more/faq.aspx

    You are more than welcome to PM me or shoot me an email debbie@ratemyhorsepro.com



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