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    Default The Greatest Race Never won - Melbourne Cup

    This was made and shown today during the Melbourne Cup festivities. They basically took all of the all time greats who have won the Cup over the 149 years. Put them in a race with ideal conditions ( i guess not sure how they came to decide on conditions). And see who wins.

    http://www.greatestcupneverwon.com.au

    Starters include:

    Phar Lap
    Makybe Diva
    Carbine
    Rising Fast
    Comic Court
    Archer
    Might and Power
    Galilee (bart Cummings)
    Light Fingers (bart)
    Think Big (bart)
    Saintly (bart-- also carried the Cup to the winners circle today! looking pretty fiesty still!)
    Peter Pan

    There were 24 starters but can't find a list of them all.

    Enjoy!

    P.



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    Ah, Carbine. That horse carried 10st 5lb in the cup - 145 lb or approx 66kg

    all heart and guts.



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    the others:

    Doriemus (1995)
    Rain Lover (1968/69)
    Poseidon (1906)
    Grand Flaneur (1880)
    Vintage Crop (1993)
    Delta (1951)
    Malua (1884)
    Nightmarch (1929)
    Poitrel (1920)
    The Barb (1866)
    Dalray (1952)
    Hall Mark (1933)



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    Janie- do you by chance have the dates for the other ones?

    P.

    ps. i'm guessing your an aussi?



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    . PHAR LAP - Harry Telford - Jim Pike - 21 - 60kg
    1930 Equine freak. Won with 62.5kg. Only odds-on winner



    2. CARBINE Walter Hickenbotham - Bob Ramage - 16 - 59kg
    1890 19th century champ who carried 65.5kg, a weight carrying record



    3. MAKYBE DIVA - Lee Freedman - Glen Boss - 14 - 58kg
    2003-05 Only Cup threepeat winner. Viewed as modern-day equivalent of Phar Lap



    4. PETER PAN - Frank McGrath - Darby Munro - 13 - 58kg
    1932 & 1934 Dual winner in Phar Lap era



    5. GALILEE - Bart Cummings - John Miller - 1 - 57.5kg
    1966 Won Toorak Hcp, Caulfield-Melbourne Cup and Fisher Plate in spring of '66



    6. POSEIDON - Ike Earnshaw - Tom Clayton - 3 - 57.5kg
    1906 Won Caulfield Cup, Melbourne Cup, VRC and AJC Derby as a 3YO



    7. RISING FAST - Ivan Tucker - Jack Purtell - 11 - 57kg
    1954 Capped a stunning spring when he won Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup - the only horse to win the triple crown.

    8. RAIN LOVER - Mick Robins - Jim Johnson - 7 - 56kg
    1968 Eight-length winner of the Cup then carried 60.5kg to win successive Cups



    9. COMIC COURT - Jim Cummings - Pat Glennon - 24 - 55.5kg
    1950 Trained by Bart's dad, just one of five original top weights to win Cup in 1950



    10. GRAND FLANEUR - Tom Brown - Tom Hales - 4 - 55.5kg
    1880 Only Cup winner never to be beaten. Won nine from nine.



    11. MIGHT AND POWER - Jack Denham - Jim Cassidy - 12 - 55kg
    1997 Modern-day champ who defied 3.5kg penalty from Caulfield Cup win to win the big one



    12. ARCHER - Etienne De Mestre - Johnny Cutts - 22 - 54kg
    1861-62 Started it all. Won first Cup by six lengths and the second by eight

    13. VINTAGE CROP - Dermot Weld - Michael Kinane - 10 - 54kg
    1993 First European-trained Cup winner and introduced DK Weld to Cup folklore

    14. DELTA - Maurice McCarten - Neville Selwood - 9 - 53.5kg
    1951 Won 11 of his 14 starts as a 5YO including '51 Cup with 59.5kg



    15. MALUA - Isaac Foulsham - Alick Robertson - 17 - 53.5kg
    1884 Carried 61kg to win Cup one year after winning Oakleigh Plate/Newmarketnts and four years before won Grand National Hurdle



    16. NIGHTMARCH - Alex McAulay - Roy Reed - 5 - 53.5kg
    1929 First horse to win Cox Plate/Melbourne Cup double defeating Phar Lap in 1929

    17. POITREL - Harry Robinson - Ken Bracken - 20 - 53.5kg
    1920 Sydney-centric stayer who won with 63kg

    18. SAINTLY - Bart Cummings - Darren Beadman - 2 - 53kg
    1996 Maybe Bart's best Cup winner. One of only five to win Cox Plate/Cup double in same year

    19. THE BARB - John Tait - William Davis - 18 - 53kg
    1886 Phenomenal 19th-Century stayer who won as 3YO and given highest ever handicap - 73kg as a 6YO

    20. DALRAY - Clarrie McCarthy - Bill Williamson - 19 - 52.5kg
    1952 New Zealand champ. Only Phar Lap carried more weight to win as 4YO

    21. HALL MARK - Jack Holt - Jack O'Sullivan - 23 - 52.5kg
    1933 Another champ from the Phar Lap era. Won as 3Y0

    22. LIGHT FINGERS - Bart Cummings - Roy Higgins - 15 - 52.5kg
    1965 Introduced Bart Cummings to the great race he would make his own



    23. DORIEMUS - Lee Freedman - Damien Oliver - 6 - 52kg
    1995 Completed Caulfield/Melbourne Cup double then gave weight to Might And Power when beaten a pimple in '97

    24. THINK BIG - Bart Cummings - Harry White - 8 - 52kg
    1974-75 Another of Bart's Cup winners. Dual winner, latter with 58.5kg

    from
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/...-1225898057211



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    oh and yes, Australian.



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    I couldn't get that link to work but here it is on youtube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A43rV...layer_embedded



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    Where's Kingston Rule?

    He holds the Melbourne Cup stakes record. He was bred in the U.S. and was by a horse everyone's talking about lately....Secretariat!



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