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  1. #1
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    Default Magnesium Oxide v.s. Di-Magnesium Malate?

    Can anyone tell me why I would want to feed one versus the other, or would I want to feed both?

    This would be for an anxious horse. I always have a partial 50 lb bag of Mag-Ox in my feed room, but now I have recently learned about Di-Mag Mal. I am wondering if this is a better form of Magnesium? This company carries it: http://www.performanceequineusa.com/...umtherapy.aspx



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    I put my mare on it back in May. She was on Ex-Stress for years with no real effect but since it was rated #1 by Horse Journal - I figured it was the "best" out there and was scared to take her off!

    I actually called Carla (at Performance Equine) to talk to her about her other product, Focus Equine, and after describing my mare to her, she said the mare sounded VERY mag deficient. So I ordered in a pound of the dimagnesium malate and a 7 day trial of Focus. Within 4 days, I had a new horse.

    Mag Ox is not as bio-available as Dimagnesium malate. Dimag is the one the most bio-available forms you can get and Carla carries human grade dimag.

    I highly suggest calling Carla and speaking with her. My mare will be on it forever as it has made a HUGE difference for her. I did put the mare on Focus for the summer as she had some emotional baggage tied to work - because her muscles couldn't work efficiently and therefore she would get all beside herself and escalate into emotional meltdowns. For YEARS people/trainers would tell me she just had no work ethic and that it was a training issue. My husband simply said the mare was nuts. Pfiff! My mare is so much more at ease and working beautifully. She also stopped bolting her grain and inhaling her hay to the point of mild choke.

    So yes, being the owner of a highly emotional, basketcase mare - dimagnesium malate has made all the difference in the world.



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    Why you might want to feed one vs the other?
    I guess the bottom line might be do you have so much money you feel a need to get rid of some...
    "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

    ...just settin' on the Group W bench.



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    Bottom line for me was Ex-Stress (mag sulfate) did nothing and dimagnesium has done wonders.

    Have you actually tried dimagnesium malate? If not, I don't think you are qualified to comment.



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    I haven't had personal experience with curare or with cyanide, either.
    Must I refrain from voicing an opinion on those?

    I checked the website of the purveyor of your favored nostrum, (and just what are the qualifications of the seller of this magic stuff?) and found enough there to set off what Guilherme would call my male bovine excrement detector.
    The stuff may be bioavailable, but the price is high.
    "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

    ...just settin' on the Group W bench.



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    I have fed mag sulfate, mag oxide, and now finally, mag malate. The ONLY one that has given me any positive effects on my mare was the mag malate. I was not sold on the fact that a different form was worth the extra money but decided to try it. For the first time in 8 years, my boarder was able to ride her horse completely out of sight and my mare didnt even prick her ears at him. Mind you this is the same mare that will have a complete meltdown by even walking said gelding down the aisle 20 feet. My mare is the typical tb that will fret and internalize and since being on the magnesium so no longer walks her stall or get anxious in the cross ties, doesnt freak out if she is seperated from the other horses and having them at home with just me, 3 horses, and 3 acres, thats a big PITA trying to manage them without upseting her to the point that she will physically injure herself. None of those things are a worry now and the only different is the magnesium malate.

    Try it. See what happens. If it works, great. If it doesnt, well thats ok too. Of course every experience is going to be different but the only way to truly know is to try it yourself. You can get the 1lb bag for $15 which is approx 1-1.5 months depending on your serving size. I saw improvements, notable improvements, after 8-12 days.
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    I use mag ox and it works well for my horse. I really didn't see a difference between mag ox and other versions of chelated mg, mg proteinate, etc. which are also supposed to be more bio-available. I haven't tried Dimag. At $20 for a 50lb bag of mag ox, it is very cost effective and I don't feel a need to try something else at this point. Of course, each horse is an individual so you will have to find out what works for your horse.



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    I have always had MagOx in my feed room. $20 for 50lb? I get mine from a feed compounding place for $10-$12 - depending upon current market price per pount.

    Searched the net, and could not find a better price for DiMM. I went ahead and ordered 3lbs.

    About DiMM:
    Magnesium is an essential mineral in over 300 enzymatic reactions in metabolism. These reactions include those involved in the Krebs cycle (one of the body's energy production systems), energy transport and storage, the breakdown of fatty acids, DNA metabolism, and hormone regulation, the activation of B vitamins, proper nerve function and neurotransmitter activity, and the formation and maintenance of protein, fatty acids and bone. Magnesium is vital for cell formation, and helps to form adenosine triphosphate (ATP), the body's energy source.

    Malic acid is a natural fruit acid that is present in most cells in the body and is an important component of numerous enzymes key to ATP synthesis and energy production.

    Magnesium Malate is one of the few substances that can chelate aluminum from tissues of the body. Because malic acid plays a key role in the production of energy in the mitochondria, it is often recommended with magnesium for fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome.



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