[harryjohnson Aefvue Senior Gardens]

The suspensions handed out were not limited, the suspended parties were given no "end" date, but had the ability to apply for reinstatement after x amount of years. The reinstatement is not guaranteed.

[big dawg]

Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
And Eric Lamaze has been caught three times for cocaine, and he is still in the sport--once he was either going into or coming out of Australia, I think, to/from a competition.

Oh please, like a little tootage is the same thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It amazes me that some of you think that breaking some laws are o.k.--but others are not...he got busted [arrested] 3 times. cocaine is a big problem in this and other countries...the USEF has suspended people because their horses tested positive for the drug and it is a prohibited substance.
Wow, you just want it Your Way, and have no logical point of view it appears. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey, airhead, do not put words in my mouth. If you would read for comprehension, you would see that my opinion is that snorting coke is not the same as having horses killed for insurance $$. Nowhere did it say that I thought it was okay to break any law. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, but you think that it is a lesser crime than killing an animal...are you a vegand

[big dawg]

Originally posted by harryjohnson:
The suspensions handed out were not limited, the suspended parties were given no "end" date, but had the ability to apply for reinstatement after x amount of years. The reinstatement is not guaranteed.

Nobody said it was...............

[big dawg]

Originally posted by Snowbird:
Dear little pup I cannot imagine how you can claim any comprehension and not understand that it is a worse evil to drug a helpless horse who had no choice and who is the athlete than it is to take drugs as a passenger on one of these wondrous animals.If truly the rider was the athlete then any of those great riders could take any of my common horses and win.

All we are asking for is a little common respect for a horse who perhaps embarrassed an expert by not being as good as expected. He didn't need the money, his owner didn't need the money the horse could have been given away for nothing and no one would have had any real problem and maybe some junior would have had a wonderful Equitation horse for free.

to begin with, loose the disparaging "little pup"...it makes you look small.

the rider is the athlete according to the USOC/and medicating of horses takes place at every horse show every week...anyone involved in the show business knows that.

as for the rest of what you say about the horses killed, I agree with you. I just think everyone deserves a shot at a second chance.

so please be polite, civil and respectful.

[big dawg]

Originally posted by ss3777:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">then petition for a Rule Change---they did not give any of these people a "lifetime ban".

Would you support such a petition? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, IF it also tightened up the drug sampling of both riders and horses, and stopped the legalized medication that goes on now that keeps sore horses in the game just because some lady or parent wants to continue to "play" at being a rider.

[harryjohnson Aefvue Senior Gardens]

big dawg, thank you for explaining what I had already made clear. I never would have understood what I was saying otherwise. Obviously you have no agenda other than keeping this thread on page one.

[stfatpony]

you go, Harry!! http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/lol.gif

[War Admiral]

Originally posted by big dawg:
yes, IF it also tightened up the drug sampling of both riders and horses, and stopped the legalized medication that goes on now that keeps sore horses in the game just because some lady or parent wants to continue to "play" at being a rider.

Well, let's see how things shake down. We've got 5 years between this round of reinstatement eligibility and the next one, maybe we could play around with the D&M thing again inbetweentimes to keep everybody entertained. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...on_biggrin.gif Gonna be a way harder sell than reinstatement, though, IMO. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_rolleyes.gif

[ss3777]

Obviously you have no agenda other than keeping this thread on page one.

for which I will be eternally grateful http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c.../icon_wink.gif

BD, I think perhaps when you are "not poking the tiger" you probably have more in common with the people that support the no reinstatement than those that would not. Well, I find myself agreeing with you on at least the following:

Change the rule to lifetime ban for horse killers
Definitely room for improvement in the pharmaceutical end of things
Keep this thread on page 1

Perhaps your bark is worse than your bite? Very useful in big dogs.
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[War Admiral]

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And don't forget we have some great merch that horse_poor and Lori B. did. The link is in my sig.

Keep crossposting and thanks for your continued support!!

[Coreene]

Originally posted by big dawg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
And Eric Lamaze has been caught three times for cocaine, and he is still in the sport--once he was either going into or coming out of Australia, I think, to/from a competition.

Oh please, like a little tootage is the same thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It amazes me that some of you think that breaking some laws are o.k.--but others are not...he got busted [arrested] 3 times. cocaine is a big problem in this and other countries...the USEF has suspended people because their horses tested positive for the drug and it is a prohibited substance.
Wow, you just want it Your Way, and have no logical point of view it appears. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey, airhead, do not put words in my mouth. If you would read for comprehension, you would see that my opinion is that snorting coke is not the same as having horses killed for insurance $$. Nowhere did it say that I thought it was okay to break any law. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, but you think that it is a lesser crime than killing an animal...are you a vegand </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A) there is no such thing as a vegand, and it's so stupid that I don't think it will even make it into the COTHisms list
B) yes, I think that snorting coke is a lesser crime than killing an animal; I also think it is wrong to break the law, and I totally agree with Lamaze being banned for a time due to his drug use

[Jumphigh83]

Just helping the dog out by bumping this up...

[big dawg]

Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
And Eric Lamaze has been caught three times for cocaine, and he is still in the sport--once he was either going into or coming out of Australia, I think, to/from a competition.

Oh please, like a little tootage is the same thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It amazes me that some of you think that breaking some laws are o.k.--but others are not...he got busted [arrested] 3 times. cocaine is a big problem in this and other countries...the USEF has suspended people because their horses tested positive for the drug and it is a prohibited substance.
Wow, you just want it Your Way, and have no logical point of view it appears. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey, airhead, do not put words in my mouth. If you would read for comprehension, you would see that my opinion is that snorting coke is not the same as having horses killed for insurance $$. Nowhere did it say that I thought it was okay to break any law. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

let's not get b....., if you cannot be civil, respectful and polite, you should got to some other chatroom.

[big dawg]

Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coreene:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by big dawg:
And Eric Lamaze has been caught three times for cocaine, and he is still in the sport--once he was either going into or coming out of Australia, I think, to/from a competition.

Oh please, like a little tootage is the same thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It amazes me that some of you think that breaking some laws are o.k.--but others are not...he got busted [arrested] 3 times. cocaine is a big problem in this and other countries...the USEF has suspended people because their horses tested positive for the drug and it is a prohibited substance.
Wow, you just want it Your Way, and have no logical point of view it appears. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey, airhead, do not put words in my mouth. If you would read for comprehension, you would see that my opinion is that snorting coke is not the same as having horses killed for insurance $$. Nowhere did it say that I thought it was okay to break any law. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, but you think that it is a lesser crime than killing an animal...are you a vegand </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A) there is no such thing as a vegand, and it's so stupid that I don't think it will even make it into the COTHisms list
B) yes, I think that snorting coke is a lesser crime than killing an animal; I also think it is wrong to break the law, and I totally agree with Lamaze being banned for a time due to his drug use </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think Everyone on this thread would agree that you have some kind of a Problem with my view point...if you cannot be civil, respectful and polite, then I think you need to go to some other chatroom.

[big dawg]

Originally posted by harryjohnson:
big dawg, thank you for explaining what I had already made clear. I never would have understood what I was saying otherwise. Obviously you have no agenda other than keeping this thread on page one.

I never thought I had an 'agenda'...I just felt this thread is being 'run one-sided.

[Coreene]

Pssst, Dawg, let me let you in on a secret: this is not a chat room.

So when you said:

sorry, am not used to these chat room rules and etiquette, etc. this is new for me and i am doing some research for an article i am writing. i was warned about these chat rooms and am finding maybe the warnings were correct. seems there is not much room for differing points of view.

...on January 9, had you not figured out anything since you first began posting in mid December?

[big dawg]

Originally posted by Coreene:
Pssst, Dawg, let me let you in on a secret: this is not a chat room.

So when you said:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">sorry, am not used to these chat room rules and etiquette, etc. this is new for me and i am doing some research for an article i am writing. i was warned about these chat rooms and am finding maybe the warnings were correct. seems there is not much room for differing points of view.

...on January 9, had you not figured out anything since you first began posting in mid December? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Coreene, you have become TOO CONFRONTATIONAL AND ABUSIVE. Dealing with you is just making me tired...

[Coreene]

Dude, I was never dealing with you in the first place. I made a comment re how I thought that snorting coke was not at the same criminal level as killing horses, and you decided to make a bunch of assumptions about me. Which were all wrong.

[big dawg]

Originally posted by Coreene:
Dude, I was never dealing with you in the first place. I made a comment re how I thought that snorting coke was not at the same criminal level as killing horses, and you decided to make a bunch of assumptions about me. Which were all wrong.

Babe, it is Big Dawg to you, not Dude...WOOF

[La Gringa]

Chocolate anybody?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c.../icon_wink.gif