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  1. #1
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    Default Casall - Offspring

    How do you like the Casalls?

    We have numerous young ones by him, from foals to 6yrs old, and really believe in him. They are all pretty horses with big stride and scope and a perfect jump.

    See "C.C.Catch" (mother by Coronado) and "Cenzor" (mother by Alcatraz):

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    She is very brave and experienced - finished 3rd at Sunshine Tour finals 2009!

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    Very nice! Wish there was more semen available here.



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    I believe Chad Keenum had one in his barn, imported maybe 2 years ago? You may find him on Chad's Congratulations page, www.cksporthorses.com, "Cassallo". If I recall, he was just wonderful, super mover, great jumper and perfect brain as well as gorgeous. I *think* he was tragically lost in a freak accident, though.
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    Casall is a top stallion and is being considered as good as Cassini and Contender ..........maybe better.



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    We had the first two born in the US and they are 3 this year. They are really super. I would jump at the opportunity to breed to him again. Ca-ching was a keeper for us, so we will have her out in sport next year.
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    Even in Germany it's not so easy to get semen anymore. Like Cassini and Caretino, he is only available for Holstein mares owned by registered Holstein breeders. We are quite happy that we have lots of youngsters!

    Maybe you should buy some Casall fillys to put in your breeding program. If you are interested, just contact us!
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    i have found the instance of observing casall's career very interesting. when younger, there was very much a sense of 'wait and see' from many breeders. his sire, caretino, although epic in his own production, was also quite varied and one never was sure what a mare might throw from him. it has taken time for casall's breeding results to indicate greater consistency than his sire. we were waiting and looking for the good caretino son to come and so far no one else seems to be filling those shoes as well as casall. casall has already produced exponentially well, including siring the reserve champion stallion of holstein last year.

    in sport there were some of the usual questions of him as a youngster. certainly he has been in good hands and has made the most of that. i believe we might see him at the weg in ky with rolf up, assumably for the swedish team (?). i watched rolf school him at count rantzau's castle a couple of years ago..... plenty nice enough, but all eyes at the time were on rolf's other mount in the barn, ninja, who then turned up an individual silver medal in hong kong.

    since then casall has made a surge, both in his progression through the ranks of the sport as well as in the breeding shed, as already noted. breeders such as myself who had held back didn't need to wait any longer and the verband have been inundated with requests such that, as mentioned above, he is now only for verband mares in holstein.

    for myself, i am thrilled to have a pregnancy coming from my 3yo casiro x canturo mare who just scored 50 bonits in her test in the spring, and who comes from a grandmother who was a nations cup winning jumper for germany.

    i guess the moral of the story may be that wisdom waits to see, but when the real thing shows up, be careful not to take too long to get convinced!



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    Uh, I'm pretty sure this was a rhetorical question so that we could look at some nice Casall's for sale...not sure the original poster needs to be told that Casall is an important stallion



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    there may well have been a self-serving intent from the op, but nonetheless we find that even holsteiner breeders who do not stay current with the breed can fall behind in current knowledge and be unaware of either the situation behind a stallion like casall or even the horse's existence. his has been a unique rise through the ranks and i trust that airing details of his story is interesting for some...



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    And I for one found your information very interesting. Thank you, ne1.

    One quick question after looking at the photos of the Casall offspring in the OP. Is Casall noted for producing moderate to small offspring? Both the horses above looked fairly small under the woman rider. Great jumps and style, just not as big as I usually think of holsteiners. Unless the woman is quite tall.
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    I just wanted to know what you think about Casall in the States. We were one of the first breeders in Germany who believed in him (even though we don't really like Caretino - as mentioned above, you never know what you get when you breed with Caretino...). We loved his first offspring when they were babies because they are ALL well balanced, good movers and very sporty types. That is very close to our idea of an ideal sport horse.

    We are now quite happy that we believed in him very early. It's similar with Clarimo. His offspring might even have more quality than the Casalls, but the types and moves of the Casalls seem to be better.

    Casall produces not too big, but nice medium size. They grow a long time - the chestnut was small as a 5yrs old but is now 1,68 m (16.2). He is already sold to Belgium, so don't worry that this post is only promotion.
    The bay mare is the same size, but very noble, so she looks smaller than she is.

    I wouldn't combine Casall with a small producing mare, but if they produce average size, I would have no objection.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stall_Luetkemeier View Post
    I just wanted to know what you think about Casall in the States. We were one of the first breeders in Germany who believed in him (even though we don't really like Caretino - as mentioned above, you never know what you get when you breed with Caretino...). We loved his first offspring when they were babies because they are ALL well balanced, good movers and very sporty types. That is very close to our idea of an ideal sport horse.

    We are now quite happy that we believed in him very early. It's similar with Clarimo. His offspring might even have more quality than the Casalls, but the types and moves of the Casalls seem to be better.

    Casall produces not too big, but nice medium size. They grow a long time - the chestnut was small as a 5yrs old but is now 1,68 m (16.2). He is already sold to Belgium, so don't worry that this post is only promotion.
    The bay mare is the same size, but very noble, so she looks smaller than she is.

    I wouldn't combine Casall with a small producing mare, but if they produce average size, I would have no objection.
    Very good assessment of Casall's production. It was known after his first foal crop that he would do best with mares with lots of framework and long legs.

    I have seen many that were very deep in the body with short legs from the wrong mares.



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    Quote Originally Posted by arnika View Post
    And I for one found your information very interesting. Thank you, ne1.

    One quick question after looking at the photos of the Casall offspring in the OP. Is Casall noted for producing moderate to small offspring? Both the horses above looked fairly small under the woman rider. Great jumps and style, just not as big as I usually think of holsteiners. Unless the woman is quite tall.
    An acquaintance of mine has a Casall gelding; he is maybe 15.1. The little sucker can jump though and he is quick and game. We call him the equine dirt bike. Vroom vroom. Suits her though, she is a petite young woman.
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