The Chronicle of the Horse
MagazineNewsHorse SportsHorse CareCOTH StoreVoicesThe Chronicle UntackedDirectoriesMarketplaceDates & Results
 
Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May. 25, 2009
    Posts
    82

    Default When do you worry?

    I have a lovely colt who is still a little toed out. One more than another but both slightly go out from the pastern down. He was really bad when first born and was also really in with one knee. He has straightened a lot and I was giving him Foal-Aide. My vet isn't too concerned and thought with age he would straighten out but at his inspection she thought I should do something about it before it was too late. So how long do you go before you worry? And if you were to do something what would you do? Try trimming the feet different or go a more extreme route? Thanks



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct. 3, 2002
    Location
    it's not the edge of the earth, but you can see it from here
    Posts
    12,079

    Default

    I always, ALWAYS trim the foot to the foot. Not to anything else.

    Jaime Jackson/Pete Ramey type. I was doing it long before it had a name, when I learned it on a Ranch with 4,250 acres and 110 +/- horses. We just DID what helped the horse to be sound and strong.

    I don't worry about toed out (or in) until the chest has really sprung. Usually 5 or 6 and sometimes even slightly later.

    YES, you trim to help develop corectness... but NO, you don't fuss too much. Let them grow into it.

    The ONLy toed out I ever worry about is toed out *after* the chest has sprung.

    Just me. I'm probably lost in the dark ages.
    InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)



  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec. 13, 1999
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    36,962

    Default

    A good vet, farrier, and set of xrays are your best friend.

    By the time the chest has widened, to turn the legs in, it's almost too late to fix any deviation that is from the fetlock down. If this is truly an abnormal deviation not of the "foal toed out" variety, then the sooner it's worked on, the better.

    The foal toeing out is from the chest down - the whole leg is turned out a bit. That's normal. A "straight" leg with a toed out foot isn't normal. It may be what has to be for that horse, but it may also be something you can fix.
    ______________________________
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET



  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug. 26, 2008
    Posts
    2,047

    Default

    I learned to trim from a master farrier, and his thought with corrective trimming/shoeing was that you had until about 8 months old to correct major problems, but minor corrections could continue until about 2 years old.

    That's talking correction of deformities, mind you.

    In this area, the high-performance breeders deal with a vet and farrier who work together. A farrier well-versed in a variety of corrective shoeing methods as well as corrective trimming. You need frequent radiographs and a lot of maintenance on the horse, but they can correct a lot.

    If you're concerned, that's probably the route you want to go. No one online is going to be able to give you a great assessment without seeing the horse and some films.
    Lifestyle coordinator for Zora, Spooky, Wolfgang and Warrior



  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb. 9, 2005
    Location
    Upper Midwest
    Posts
    6,351

    Default

    How old is your foal? My filly toed out and was also knock-kneed for the first two weeks and it completely corrected on its own. I wouldn't change a thing now at two months old.

    That said, do the front legs match or is it one leg? I think you are right to be concerned, but urge caution. I have seen a farrier "fix" a toe out, and make the foal beautifully straight. Then 3 years down the line the horse toes-in (after chest widens). Of course I've also seen foals toe-out and toe-out as adults too.
    Siouxland Sporthorses: http://slsfarm.blogspot.com/

    DIY Journey of Remodeling the Farmette: http://weownblackacre.blogspot.com/



  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul. 5, 2002
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    8,372

    Default

    The lower the problem the less time you have to address it. Fetlocks down would need to be addressed within the first few months of life.



  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov. 28, 2003
    Location
    MO
    Posts
    4,595

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Home Again Farm View Post
    The lower the problem the less time you have to address it. Fetlocks down would need to be addressed within the first few months of life.
    You've gotten some great info, and the above is very true. The lower down the problem, the quicker it needs to be addressed. Very important to determine if the entire leg is turned out, or if the deviation is just in the fetlock, as someone else mentioned. I would get the foal evaluated ASAP by an experienced farrier/vet.
    Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm."
    --Winston Churchill
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hills...h/112931293227
    www.HillsideHRanch.com



Similar Threads

  1. Why Worry Hounds
    By Maybe in forum Hunting
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: Mar. 7, 2011, 12:25 PM
  2. Should I worry about this horse?
    By Scaramouch in forum Off Course
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: Jan. 23, 2011, 08:15 PM
  3. Should I worry about ulcers?
    By jmac84 in forum Horse Care
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: Feb. 8, 2010, 04:29 PM
  4. I've Been Bitten By A Dog! Should I Worry?
    By TikiSoo in forum Around The Farm
    Replies: 47
    Last Post: Feb. 18, 2009, 12:35 PM
  5. Replies: 17
    Last Post: Dec. 4, 2008, 03:44 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
randomness