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  1. #1
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    Default Doubling up on Corrado I ?

    Is doubling up on Corrado I reported to create good athletes, or is it better to avoid ?

    Mare is by Beaulieu's Conquest. Dam sire is Accord II.

    Breeding is not for now, but I have Diarado on my short list and was wondering if it would be a good cross.

    Thanks to share your precious knowledge



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    need to watch toplines.....

    that is probably the closest i'd put corrado together in a pedigree, but still with some hesitation and only if the mare was super strong and well conformed in her back.

    i'm not (yet) a diarado fan at all. the buzz has died down and frankly the foals i have seen (many of) have not been impressive. but still we wait until they hit the ring and show what they have at that point. perhaps an idea to keep an open mind yet....



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    Quote Originally Posted by ne1 View Post
    need to watch toplines.....

    that is probably the closest i'd put corrado together in a pedigree, but still with some hesitation and only if the mare was super strong and well conformed in her back.
    Agreed, we have an Ekstein x Corrado I mare that I woudn't double up the Corrado I on because she is pretty long in her back. All power and very solidly built, but quite old fashioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ne1 View Post
    need to watch toplines.....

    that is probably the closest i'd put corrado together in a pedigree, but still with some hesitation and only if the mare was super strong and well conformed in her back.
    Agreed, we have an Ekstein x Corrado I mare that I wouldn't double up the Corrado I on because she is pretty long in her back. All power and very solidly built, but quite old fashioned.
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    Good to know.

    Well it is already a gamble to breed, so I will scratch him from my list.

    Wath crosses are proven with Corrado I ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Monaco View Post
    Good to know.

    Well it is already a gamble to breed, so I will scratch him from my list.

    What crosses are proven with Corrado I ?

    lots. contender and acord ii spring to mind.

    higher blood content and good toplines work best.



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    ne1, OP's mare is out of an Accord II daughter..

    RM, do you want to stay with holsteiner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    ne1, OP's mare is out of an Accord II daughter..

    RM, do you want to stay with holsteiner?
    good catch Spike.... there are plenty of other proven holsteiner crosses with corrado.

    if op needs fresh i like cubito. it doubles up on capitol but its far enough back.... just on paper.... depends if he suits your mare, but i like him and the foals i've seen. (if you have to be picky there are minor issues at the throatlatch connection and he has and throws a slightly 'sleepy' eye (which some don't like but i actually think is fine).... but neither of these would or have stopped me breeding with him). super jump & movement, leggy type, 48% blood, lovely temperament.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    ne1, OP's mare is out of an Accord II daughter..

    RM, do you want to stay with holsteiner?
    I'd like to, but I am not closed to other suggestions. Cubito is on my short list. Convento Van de Helle as well. He stands here in Quebec. Pretty easy to get semen. He's showing and performing pretty well.

    I was also considering Beaulieu's Hearthbreaker. He would suit my mare very well. Nice topline, short back. I am heading to Bromont this week end to see him.

    There is also a new Cassini I son here in Quebec. I'll have a close look on him.

    I will not breed my mare untill 2 or 3 years. I wish to show her in the baby greens before.

    So keep the suggestions coming.



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    My suggestion would be then to look back when you'll be ready to breed.. so much things can happen untill then... The young stallions you are looking at (Convento VDH, Beaulieu's Heartbreaker, and the Cassini one) will all mature, show a bit, and have foals on the ground at wich you will be able to look at to see if it's what you are looking for for your mare. Some stallions will pass away, or simply "disappear" from the breeding world.

    But... looking at frozen semen and store some older, precious, well-reknown stallions doses in advance is always wise...
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    I'd be somewhat hesitant to double up on Corrado I up close, but stranger experiements have taken place in history of horse breeding.

    He's Corde - Capitol, a very proven combination. http://www.holsteiner-verband.de/cms...x=yes&pageno=3 and I think Karen of Fox Fire Farm has his frozen semen. A tremendous sire, and jumps the moon.

    As for good crosses with mares that have him in his pedigree, Quinar might be dynamite. I do second Acord II, also maybe consider Limbus, Canto, Casall... Nekton.

    You want to go catty and swift. The scope already ought to be there.

    Anna



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