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    Default Saddle Fiends: Pilgrimage to Walsall, UK?

    So I'll be in London for work and a bit of play afterward.

    Of the various monuments I could travel to see, don't you think a trip to Walsall-- the Mecca of British saddlery-- counts as a must see?


    I understand Walsall is an industrial town, grotty and all. But can it be done? Have you made the pilgrimage? Worth doing?

    Walsall Riding Saddle Co. (venerable manufactures of original Crosbys, modern Crosbys and Exselle saddles) is there. So is Black Country. I'd like to see where County saddles are built, too.
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    I would TOTALLY do it!
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    Wow yes, a mecca! Maybe you can get a factory tour?

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    You're right, it's not the most beautiful of towns Would you be driving or getting the train? I've just looked on the National Rail site and you can get from London Euston to Walsall in a couple of hours, with 1 change. No idea where the station is in relation to anything else, though!



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    Oh my, perhaps they have FACTORY STORES!! Mismatched leather for the flaps? 70% off! Billet holes a bit off? That's a 30% discount.

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    Default When in Rome....

    OK, everyone but Guin, stop teasing me.

    This is serious business. In the 19th century, people made the Grand Tour of Europe either when they came of age or got married. The trip let everyone see (but also buy) just about every product of Cultural Importance they might need to enter adulthood. The tour invariably ended in Rome, reaching a crescendo as one got to the very epicenter of Western Culture. If you toured Europe and didn't go to Rome, well, I don't know what kind of idiot you were.

    See why I need to go to Walsall? And I'd figure out how to drive in order to do it.
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    I would want to see the Sedgewick and Hadfields factories while there too.



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    Walsall may be a grotty suburb of Birmingham. But there is some pretty countryside just north of there- including the place they found the Staffordshire Hoard
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    hey MVP while you're there can ya pick me up a County Stabilizer? K thanks!

    On a serious note...I think that would be extremely interesting if they let you tour the factories. I would love to see a saddle being crafted and learn about the history.



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    You might also try Kings Saddlery http://www.kingsaddlery.co.uk/index.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    I would want to see the Sedgewick and Hadfields factories while there too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Janet View Post
    You might also try Kings Saddlery http://www.kingsaddlery.co.uk/index.htm
    You see! A total Mecca. Great tack packed in cheek to jowl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janet View Post
    Walsall may be a grotty suburb of Birmingham. But there is some pretty countryside just north of there- including the place they found the Staffordshire Hoard
    Yeah.... and.... your point? But I think I'd see a Hoard. What is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by KateKat View Post
    hey MVP while you're there can ya pick me up a County Stabilizer? K thanks!

    On a serious note...I think that would be extremely interesting if they let you tour the factories. I would love to see a saddle being crafted and learn about the history.
    On an equally serious note. If I could stand there with the leather, tree and saddler, I'd order up what I wanted. I'd buy "souvenirs" for friends, too. Pay US retail for a saddle rep who may or may not do a better job? I might not buy from the company at all.

    Money would change hands.

    Look, if Krispie Kreme has an effing red light in their parking lot that turns on when fresh batch of donuts is out....

    If breweries and distilleries can tolerate visits from their fan club, I don't see why tackeries wouldn't open their doors, too.

    Money would change hands. Did you get that part?

    But I don't know *how* to crash Walsall factories. I could get drunk first. Oh, wait, wrong context. But then what?
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    Cool idea! Wish I could go with!

    I know that Berney Brothers (both the Kildare and the Enniscorthy versions) give factory tours, as does Devoucoux. But alas, those are in Ireland and France.

    Frank Baines, Classic (formerly Rembrandt), and some other brands that are not coming to my mind ATM are built in Walsall too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp View Post
    Yeah.... and.... your point? But I think I'd see a Hoard. What is that?
    http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/

    (From Wikipedia)"The Staffordshire Hoard is the largest hoard of Anglo-Saxon gold yet found. Discovered in a field near the village of Hammerwich, near Lichfield, in Staffordshire, England on 5 July 2009, it consists of more than 1,500 items that are nearly all martial in character. The artefacts have tentatively been dated to the 7th or 8th centuries...The hoard was valued at £3.285 million, and has now been purchased by the Birmingham Museum & Art Gallery and the Potteries Museum & Art Gallery."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp View Post
    But I don't know *how* to crash Walsall factories. I could get drunk first. Oh, wait, wrong context. But then what?
    Call and ask politely.
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    I'm not sure if this helps you or not, but I know that Leonard with Gayer's Saddlery in Upper Marlboro, MD usually travels to England every year to visit the saddle makers and to buy new saddles. You could possibly give him a call and see if he has any suggestions or recommendations of which ones would be good to visit and/or if they will let you in. (Though, frankly, I can't see why they wouldn't.) Just a thought... I hope it works out for you!
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    Update--- It's harder than it looks.

    I'm on a train to Scotland right now, having e-mailed some people who might know and was told that factory visits aren't done.

    Companies aren't set up to sell direct. So my visit would be a disruption.

    Employees, on the other hand, would be "happy" to entertain a "female" visitor... so my visit would be a disruption in another way.

    Walsall does, however, sport a Leather Museum. Should I spend some time on trains and go?

    And a little googling reveals more: You can just about throw a rock from the Leather Museum to WSR. You could also make a tour of other leather museums-- flying from England, to Germany to Spain for those.

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    I've always wanted to do what you're trying to do, so I very much appreciate the updates! Hope you get to poke your nose in the door of at least one while you're there!
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    definitely go! the guy who's making my saddle here in LA, and his apprentice, are both originally from walsall

    you should call and ask him if he knows anyone there who will give you an insider tour - tell him you read about him on the forums and kristie from california said to call. lol - he's super nice. i'm sure he'd be tickled to give you a contact!

    his number is on his website: superiorsaddlery.com



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