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  1. #1
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    Default Good Snake? Bad Snake?

    Found a snake in the pasture this morning. First (live) snake I've seen on the farm in 13 years. I know we have snakes in my neck of the country, but I think my barn cats must do their jobs well.

    Anyway, green snake, lightly speckled. Kind of pretty. Maybe 3 feet long, an inch or so in diameter. We startled each other, and he reared back and made a coil sort of and was shaking the last bit of his tail like he had delusions of being a rattlesnake. But no rattles there, no sound, and rattlesnakes don't come in green speckled, do they? He was not happy to see me (nor I him ). I went on, but he was gone by the time I returned with the camera.

    Is there a dangerous green speckled snake that might threaten me or critters? Or was he just shopping for mice - in which case good luck, as I have good barn cats. Should I welcome him or hoe him if I see him again?



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    99% likely a good snake
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    Yikes, you must have good barn cats. My cats wouldnt mess with a snake.

    Look him in the eyes. Does he have a round pupil or a slit for a pupil?
    Slit = poisonous
    Round = nonpoisonous



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    I have excellent barn cats. They have delivered snakes up to 4 feet, squirrels, full-grown rabbits, birds, rats, mice . . .



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    Yikes! Do you ever feed them? They sound hungry.



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    Different snakes in different parts of the country. I generally just google "snake photos TX" and then identify the one I saw. Most snakes are fine.



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    What part of the country are you? You didn't say.

    I googled speckled green snake and got this in Texas:

    http://www.texassnakes.net/Speckled.htm
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    venomous snakes are thick/short and have triangle heads....literally looks like someone took a hammer and hit them on the head. Although some rattlers get pretty darn big.

    Look at pics of water moccasins, copperheads, rattle snakes...you'll get the idea of what the vipers look like. The only one that I know that is poisionous that doesn't share these traits is the Coral snake.



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    I think that's it, Another Round. Very, very similar.

    So a good snake. Good. I know we do have rattlers and copperheads around.



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    Got a giggle out of the thread title...all I could think of was the wizard of oz line, "Are you a good witch or a bad witch?"
    You jump in the saddle,
    Hold onto the bridle!
    Jump in the line!
    ...Belefonte



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    Quote Originally Posted by chancy deal View Post
    Yikes, you must have good barn cats. My cats wouldnt mess with a snake.

    Look him in the eyes. Does he have a round pupil or a slit for a pupil?
    Slit = poisonous
    Round = nonpoisonous
    There are no poisonous snakes.

    Oh, and all snakes shake/rattle their tails when upset. Rattlesnakes just went a step further.



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    Around here, more than half our snakes are rattlers, so every time you see a snake, you assume it is one and go on alert, until you can prove it is not.

    I use this to move them:

    http://www.gemplers.com/shop/cleanup-tools



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    I HATE ALL SNAKES !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chancy deal View Post
    Look him in the eyes. Does he have a round pupil or a slit for a pupil?
    I've just never been able to bring myself calmly close enough to look a snake in the eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by chaltagor View Post
    There are no poisonous snakes.
    Explanation, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seabreeze View Post
    I've just never been able to bring myself calmly close enough to look a snake in the eyes.



    Explanation, please?
    It is a technicality. It's poisonous if you shouldn't eat it, venomous if you shouldn't let it bite/eat you.



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    Good snake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seabreeze View Post
    I've just never been able to bring myself calmly close enough to look a snake in the eyes
    lol me either... i tend to run the other way

    however, the 4 baby snakes I saw a couple days ago were rather cute, if snakes can be cute...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Snork View Post
    It is a technicality. It's poisonous if you shouldn't eat it, venomous if you shouldn't let it bite/eat you.
    Ahhh...I should have thought about that a bit longer.
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    So, now I am curious. If you eat a venemous
    snake, it won't poison you? I know you can eat
    rattlesnake, but I assume there are parts you
    must avoid.



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    The venom is kept in sacs attached to the fangs, which are folded back in the snake's mouth. When it opens its mouth to strike the fangs unfold and the venom will be pumped into the prey, much like a hypodermic neddle.

    Rattlesnake can be eaten, and no you won't get poisoned from the venom, since it is in the snake's head.

    I was introduced to snakes at an early age. Both older brothers used to catch snakes, both venomous & non, to sell to the ATL zoo and places that make anti-venom. We had a basement full of creepy crawlies and they caught me how to handle them. I have pictures of me as a little kid holding a boa constrictor around my shoulder with a huge grin.

    I don't kill the "good" snakes, as they are nice to have around the barn to take care of the rodents. But copperheads, moccasins, & rattlers get sent to snake heaven very quickly.
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