[Garnet93]

We usually do very well undersaddle regardless of how tough the competition is (including winning the hack at M&S Finals out of 40+ horses):
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...1&id=733487433

[Plumcreek]

[QUOTE=dags;4715872]
Per the level of the head in this photo it didn't strike me as obscene, such as you would see in AQHA peanut rolling competitions. The fault they're (attempting) to fight in that world is a neck that drops straight off from the wither, where you can literally draw a straight line from wither, down the crest, and end up on the ground about 6 feet in front of your hands. This horse is using his back far better than any of those exhibiting this fault in the QH world, and thus only the last 6 inches of his neck are below wither level. A line drawn from his wither would first go up and then aim towards a spot on the ground many, many strides beyond the one he is on. He is still relatively light in front, he's reaching nicely through his back in this corner, and stepping at least into his front footfalls if not beyond. He could be looking a bit more through the bridle, but he strikes me as the type you try to stay out of the way of as he moves so well on his own.
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http://pets.webshots.com/photo/22459...64985027BcSCzA

Actualy Dags, the horse in this photo looks exactly like the top (not the majority) AQHA Hunter Under Saddle horses as presented by the best trainers at the current time. Just at a slower pace all around for AQHA. I think the horse show hack class photos catch horses on the long side when they are stretching down into the bit and lengthening their stride, so the heads/necks often are at their lowest.

[TSWJB]

We usually do very well undersaddle regardless of how tough the competition is (including winning the hack at M&S Finals out of 40+ horses):
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...1&id=733487433

now that is a hack winner in my books! your horse is gorgeous!

[Garnet93]

now that is a hack winner in my books! your horse is gorgeous!

Thank you so much! He is a really good boy...I'm lucky to have him

[dags]

[QUOTE=Plumcreek;4722921]

Per the level of the head in this photo it didn't strike me as obscene, such as you would see in AQHA peanut rolling competitions. The fault they're (attempting) to fight in that world is a neck that drops straight off from the wither, where you can literally draw a straight line from wither, down the crest, and end up on the ground about 6 feet in front of your hands. This horse is using his back far better than any of those exhibiting this fault in the QH world, and thus only the last 6 inches of his neck are below wither level. A line drawn from his wither would first go up and then aim towards a spot on the ground many, many strides beyond the one he is on. He is still relatively light in front, he's reaching nicely through his back in this corner, and stepping at least into his front footfalls if not beyond. He could be looking a bit more through the bridle, but he strikes me as the type you try to stay out of the way of as he moves so well on his own.
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http://pets.webshots.com/photo/22459...64985027BcSCzA

Actualy Dags, the horse in this photo looks exactly like the top (not the majority) Hunter Under Saddle horses as presented by the best trainers at the moment. Just at a slower pace all around. I think the horse show hack class photos catch horses on the long side when they are stretching down into the bit and lengthening their stride, so the heads/necks often are at their lowest.

Sorry Plumcreek, it's late and I may not be following ... but I was touting him (the grey) as the winner, pretty much anywhere. I agree with all your points, especially when the photogs catch them stretching and rounding through a corner.

[Plumcreek]

[QUOTE=dags;4725480]

Sorry Plumcreek, it's late and I may not be following ... but I was touting him (the grey) as the winner, pretty much anywhere. I agree with all your points, especially when the photogs catch them stretching and rounding through a corner.

Sorry, reread my post and, yep, not coherent. I edited and added. This photo reflects a frame that will be the winner in both AQHA and USEF.