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    Default California Proposes Animal Abuser Registry

    http://www.examiner.com/x-9726-Seatt...animal-abusers

    On February 19, 2010, California State Senator Majority Leader Dean Florez (Democrat) proposed a bill to would create the US' first registry for those who abuse animals.

    The law would set up a database similar to that used for sex offenders. If enacted, the law would have anyone found guilty of an animal cruelty felony register with the police. The abuser would have to provide personal information about him/herself, and a current photo. The information would be posted on-line.

    The law provides for registration for a range of violent crimes against animals (i.e., torture, mutilation, intentional killings, etc.), as well as sexual abuse and animal fighting. Neglect, including hoarding would also be included in the list of offenses for which someone would have to register. The intent of the proposed bill is to help protect animals, pet guardians and communities by preventing repeat offenses from anyone with an established history of abusing animals.
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    Interesting idea but many serial animal abusers obtain their animals from breeders or other citizens who are "giving them up" so they don't go through the shelter/adoption organizations who do background checks so claiming any effectiveness in the long-term against preventing animal abuse is dubious at best.
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    It is one more way for those animal rights groups to stir the waters and get free publicity, that they can then use to ask for donations, so they can do the same again, over and over.

    Anyone that doesn't know any better would think how neat, that will stop those collectors and abusers.
    The reality is that such is not going to happen, but who cares, as long as those animal rights groups keep their name in front of the public, any excuse is fine for them.



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    I like the idea but it appears that it would be limited to those persons convicted of a felony. In CA, animal cruelty falls under Penal Code Sec 597 which allows the incident to be charged as either a felony or a misdemeanor. This is what is known as a "wobbler" in legal terms.

    It has been hard enough to get any 597 case through the DA's office and every case I have been involved in has been charged as a misdemeanor. This means the person would escape being listed as an offender.



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    Quote Originally Posted by paint hunter View Post
    I like the idea but it appears that it would be limited to those persons convicted of a felony. In CA, animal cruelty falls under Penal Code Sec 597 which allows the incident to be charged as either a felony or a misdemeanor. This is what is known as a "wobbler" in legal terms.

    It has been hard enough to get any 597 case through the DA's office and every case I have been involved in has been charged as a misdemeanor. This means the person would escape being listed as an offender.
    That really doesn't matter, because this is about publicity for those involved, gives them one more pulpit, it is not about making legal or any other sense.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    That really doesn't matter, because this is about publicity for those involved, gives them one more pulpit, it is not about making legal or any other sense.
    What suggestions do you offer up to curb neglect and cruelty cases? If you are always cutting people off at the knees when a solution is suggested, in its infant stages, how do you expect society to attempt to solve the situation? Do you find it disturbing that the bill is being introduced by *gasp* a democrat? Does that make it less legitimate?

    How often have you seen ALDF in the news? Are you even aware of the work that ALDF does? Are you aware that most of the money donated to ALDF goes to helping prosecute animal abuse cases because many cities, counties, etc. don't have the funds to devote to animal cruelty/neglect cases?

    Is there any animal welfare group you do support besides your local dog group that you don't label as radical?

    Does your dog group rely on donations of food, money, foster homes, fundraisers, adoption fees, training, crates, discounted vet services, volunteers, the paper to advertise, promote spaying & neutering, registered as a non-profit, etc.? If yes, it has a "pulpit" all it's own within your community don't ya think?
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