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  1. #1
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    Default NAIS -THANK YOU OBAMA!!!

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...acking-program

    Yep...us small people made a difference! WE WON!!!!
    Luistano Stallion standing for 2013: Wolverine UVF
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    I am not so sure now, seems that the USDA just mandated the states run the program.
    Some states already are.



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    Cool

    Well, since I haven't received one of those "mandatory" NAIS forms in a long time, I'm hoping this is true. But nothing bad ever dies completely in Washington, IMO, if someone can potentially make money off of it. One can only hope that NObama is too busy trying to right all his wrongs to pay too much attention to this issue.
    In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
    A life lived by example, done too soon.
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    Ahhh, I was wondering what he did with those trillions of tax dollars...



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    ...unbelievable there are still kool aid swiggers out there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleigh007 View Post
    ...unbelievable there are still kool aid swiggers out there.
    Unfortunately, they still exist...lol



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    So the C.O.O.L. program is done, unfortunately. Hopefully no more BSE cows will ever happen again. Yes it was a difficult & frustrating situation of how to implement an id program for all species--cows, pigs, horses,......as well as vegetables and fruits......to prevent and track diseases.



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    My understanding is that the 2003 cow that was found to have BSE was born in Canada and shipped to Washington state. The point is that the currently existing slaughter tracking systems worked to enable backtracking the movement of cattle and to trace the migration of this specific animal....



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    If you think it is all over, read this; http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publicatio...aceability.pdf
    Last edited by Equibrit; Feb. 8, 2010 at 12:59 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleigh007 View Post
    ...unbelievable there are still kool aid swiggers out there.
    You mean the red kool aid?



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    Please keep the thread focused on the OT vs. general political commentary.

    Thanks!
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    Well glad it is over. For those of interested in politics, it was the last admin that proposed these rules-but I guess facts don't matter. Anyways I still don't how they were planning to pull it off.

    In my software life, I worked mostly in the big pharma side-but software. There they started this in FL first and extended it to others. a drug has mostly maybe 8-9 stops at most. The vendor ships it to the drug distributor/wholesaler who then ships it to the customer store(like Walgreen etc..) That is the simplest. Some alternatives maybe the customer store sells it to a real customer(us) and we return it and if it is still saleable, goes back to the distributor and then sold again to another store then that creates a few records. Another possiblity is if one of the distribution centers does not have it, then they place an internal order to get it shipped from another plant -adding another record. Then one or two more complex stuff where the distributor buys stuff in bulk and splits it up to sell in smaller quantities. So at the most the drug "moves" around 8-9 times from the big pharma company to when an actual customer buys it.

    Now this was extremely complex and just a nightmare to record everything, because of the requirements. A weekend trail rider and/or show person may have thousands of records. Someone owning a ranch may have it in two counties and every day have to record it if they cross their own ranch? Or a trainer that shows extensively with clients or just about anybody. Maybe farm animals might have a little bit more limited movement, but horses, especially for those who ride them regularly-would have been a nightmare to record and maintain each and every move. Every horse would have a file so thick and plus the thing that worried me most was that they had a provision for fines if you failed to report.



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    They are writing new rules for the States to administer and finance which apply to animals involved in interstate commerce.



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    Good. Then we can relax. The current administration is too busy to put much effort into this, IMO.
    In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
    A life lived by example, done too soon.
    www.caringbridge.org/page/laurajahnke/



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