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  1. #1
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    ok as u know I changed trainers last year. Well I know have some pics of me and markie with my old trainers and with my new one. Look at the difference! (i know I am not perfect and she isn't trying b/c the jumps are only 3')

    With my old trainers
    http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...7679028598.jpg

    With my new trainer!

    http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2941113271.jpg

    MysticRealm
    Dictionary Definition:The most beautiful mare in the entire world. This mare has tons of scope and well is just amazing. Owned by Priscilla.
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    ok as u know I changed trainers last year. Well I know have some pics of me and markie with my old trainers and with my new one. Look at the difference! (i know I am not perfect and she isn't trying b/c the jumps are only 3')

    With my old trainers
    http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...7679028598.jpg

    With my new trainer!

    http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2941113271.jpg

    MysticRealm
    Dictionary Definition:The most beautiful mare in the entire world. This mare has tons of scope and well is just amazing. Owned by Priscilla.
    MysticRealm



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    very nice!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...on_biggrin.gif

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    Looks great!

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    Yes you have improved. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...on_biggrin.gif

    I'm glad you are happier with your new trainer. Sometimes a change is necessary for several reasons.

    Have fun and good luck.



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    You can definately see an improvement. Way to go!!!!!!

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    I posted this on another board and they all thought my new riding style is AWFUL! It is weird that there is such a difference between the two boards. I guess on the other board when one person says it's bad the rest go oh yeah I think I see a tiny bad thing there, and there, and oh there too. Oh well. I like it (and it is continueosly improving) and I am MUCH more secure and my horse is much more happy!

    MysticRealm
    Dictionary Definition:The most beautiful mare in the entire world. This mare has tons of scope and well is just amazing. Owned by Priscilla.
    MysticRealm



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    Sorry, but the only change I can see is that you are no longer standing from your knee and instead are about to hit your horse's back. You are still gripping with the back of your legs (and thus, in my opinion, not a candidate to wear spurs) and in the second, you are holding onto your horse's face whereas in the first, you weren't.

    Note: Your horse's style has not changed for the better, nor has the less than happy look on his face. Equitation is all about riding and presenting the horse; not what you look like.

    But if you're happier with the new trainer, its obviously working for you and that and your horse's health are the most important things!

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    Ditto to Celtic Witch. If I was you're trainer, I'd have you shorten your stirrups a hole or two and work quite a bit at strengthening that lower leg. Your horse looks much more hollow in the second photo, though you still have a hold of her in the first pic as well. Perhaps some gymnastics and balance exercises will help develop an independent hand.

    When confronted by a difficult problem you can solve it more easily by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?"

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    I agree...I don't see much of a difference at all. Your form faults are basically the same: leg incorrect, body ducking, hands set. Your horse is still a high-headed, "splinter-belly" jumper. The only differences I see are that 1.) you both appear a bit less tense in the second photo. That in itself is a noteworthy improvement! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_smile.gif and 2.) your leg isn't straightened anymore, but it has still slipped back. Everything else, though, looks pretty much the same to me. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_confused.gif

    I disagree that you should shorten your stirrups. They were long in the first photo, contributing to your straightened knee; but in the second photo your length looks perfect, although you are dropping back in the air. Work on strengthening your leg and controlling your upper body, ie. not being so fast to "snap" your hip angle closed, and not sitting down too soon.

    JMHO, of course. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c.../icon_wink.gif

    [This message was edited by sbt78lw on Jun. 07, 2003 at 09:10 PM.]



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    http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_confused.gif
    I cant see much difference! They both look great to me!
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    You guys look great!!

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    I think that your leg looks better but you are dropping back in the saddle too early. It looks as though your horse took a big, powerful (not round) jump and you are trying to catch up with him by folding your upper-body down, thus, catching him in the mouth. Try not to do too much in the air body wise. Definitely try to give some more release and if you get to an awkward distance, just grab mane. Grabbing mane might not look as nice but it's better than catching your horse is the mouth.

    I'm glad that you found a trainer that are better and happier with.
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    Well, not to say there is NO difference...but the changes seem to be more cosmetic at the moment than fundamental.

    You have changed your saddle pad, and your stirrups are shorter. But your release is still extremely backward; your hand and arms are not free and independent of your upper body. Your balance seems dependent on your hand, rather than centered over a secure base. Your leg position is different than it was before, but you still have alot of work to do.

    Your horse's jumping form doesn't seem to have changed at all--the photos show different parts of your horse's arc through the air, but the arc itself in both pictures is indicative of a "squatty," stiff jump--your horse's head should be dropping down in the second photo, rather than raising up; his back should be rounding as his knees lift, not hollowing. Each of you has flaws in your technique; it may even be that the pair of you cause the flaws in each other.

    My suggestion would be lots of flatwork with an aim toward developing a soft and correct leg/hand/mouth relationship, and gymnastics aimed at developing your horse's jumping form and a jumping position on your part that allows him to use it.



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    Remember I have only been with my new trainer for a short time. I am still working hard to fix the troubles from the past. I used to relly jump with my legs out in front my bum out back and a very arched back. We are really trying to fix that but it takes time. Finally my leg has come back under me. My release is deffinately getting better(i do not use my hand to support my body even though it may look like it I don't) My horse isn't jumping to round yet b/c we are still rying to work on it, plus she used to have a very ill fitting saddle making her not want to use her back to jump. She is sl;owly getting better but is still not consistent. She has alot more muscle now though which will help plus a proper fitting saddle. we are also fixing her straightness issues. My trainer gets me to do one total flat lesson, one gymnastics lesson, and one course lesson a week, So I have no dought that my position and her jumping style will pron=bably get better quite quickly. Anywho I love my new jumping style alot better (thought am still trying to find the happy medium) and my trainer is fabulous and we are ALOT better than we EVER were before. Remember that a pic never tells the whole story. I may see a change for the better b/c I know that I am actually better for the most part, and u guys have never seen me ride so you can't REALLY tell. but oh well, I can feel the difference.

    MysticRealm
    Dictionary Definition:The most beautiful mare in the entire world. This mare has tons of scope and well is just amazing. Owned by Priscilla.
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    The first picture was much better, Darling.



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    Like I said I might see a change for the better b/c I know me and her are doing alot better and you guys only have one photo of each and I am still trying to fix all the mistakes and take on a new riding style. SO I am not worried by what you say or am I gonna try different things less my trainer tell me to. Like I said I am more secure, and Markie is alot happier, I am continually doing better and that is the bottom line.

    MysticRealm
    Dictionary Definition:The most beautiful mare in the entire world. This mare has tons of scope and well is just amazing. Owned by Priscilla.
    MysticRealm



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    I think your horse would be a lot happier and rounder if you released him.

    If you are happy, that is all that matters.

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    I agree that your horse looks happier but she seems to be jumping flatter than in the first picture. I of course could just be saying what it looks to an untrained eye as well though. But she does look happier.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MysticRealm:
    Like I said I might see a change for the better b/c I know me and her are doing alot better and you guys only have one photo of each and I am still trying to fix all the mistakes and take on a new riding style. SO I am not worried by what you say or am I gonna try different things less my trainer tell me to. Like I said I am more secure, and Markie is alot happier, I am continually doing better and that is the bottom line.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    MysticRealm, that is quite likely the case - you are probably seeing the differences in many areas on a regular basis. BUT, you posted the pictures as showing a big difference, and these particular ones don't yet show it. So, the responses you are getting are simply a result of having these two pictures two work off of, and the way you framed the question. JMO.



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