Who has them for sale?? I am seeing so many pre-green horses and not quite backed 3 yo olds but no 2010 baby greens. Are people just holding on to them waiting for the economy to turn? (Disclaimer- this is not a sale ad, I'm just curious as to whats going on with this level of showing.)
I have one but he is showing so much potential that I would hate to sell him at this point because I know he will bring a lot more money in a year or so. People seem to not want to pay a lot of money for a good quality, well bred horse unless it is proven.
Holding onto them yes, but mainly because they are worth far more after they have a few successful Baby Green shows under their belt, and even more after a good pregreen year.
The scale of equine value grows very little in the horses first four years of life, then begins to skyrocket with every mile it travels. An unproven Baby Green horse is going to bring in no more, and often less, than what someone spent to raise it. Or to buy it, break it and start it over fences - I'd say an asking price around $25K for the average unshown but show quality 4yo. However, if these sellers wait just one more year, put a bit of a record on it, get some good photos and videos, they suddenly have a 5 yo that can ask 40K, and maybe, just MAYBE, they'll actually come out ahead on a horse.
Baby Green is not nationally recognized, not offered at all rated shows and varies quite a bit depending on where the show is. Maybe anything from 2' to 2'6" so it's kind of hard to rely on just the "Baby Green" experience statement when shopping.
Pre Green is much more standardized and pretty much means a 3' horse. Easier for the buyer to translate.
Alot of people don't haul much below the Pre Green level, maybe hit a few locals instead of 1200 a week to go to some rated show....and show mid week.
Also, it's real early in the year for those Baby Greens, they tend to come out more towards late spring and early summer unless it's WEF or similar.
When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.
I have one. I was going to start showing her this weekend but we had two weeks off due to weather so I'm going to wait a little bit. We're planning on going to the locals for the Baby Greens and start showing up to the B shows for the PreGreens by the end of the year.
That's the plan anyways...Although if someone wanted to write me a nice check for her now, she'd be gone!
I use the baby green division strictly to get mileage on my youngsters. In my neck of the woods, it's at 2'6" and the jumps are less "decorated," although the distances are set at the pre-green level. It's a great way to get the kids out for a season, let them get used to hauling, living on the grounds, show hub bub, braiding, small courses, etc. Dragging them around 1 or 2-day local shows just doesn't give them the same environment. I will usually start with them at Thermal for 2 to 3 weeks and will show them perhaps half a dozen times more through the fall. I've had very good luck with this program.
You might check BigEq.com in the Prospect section. Also, most "three year olds" aren't actually three yet! But some have been started under saddle lightly and their price is generally, not always, less at this stage as already discussed. I've been able to find lovely hunter prospects going well under saddle in this area of N. Va./Md. for from 20K to 25K and sometimes less than that.
We have at least 5 NICE Baby Green prospects ready to go. Way too many to actually be able to drag them around and show them all! We also don't like to show them too many times in the Baby Greens as they start losing their form over those low fences. At this point in the season I'd say 25 would take any one of them.
What does the baby green division consists of in terms of horses with show experience?
It's not a nationally recognized division so the specs vary from show to show. Generally though it's set at 2'6" and limited either to horses in their first year of showing or to horses that have not shown at heights over 2'6".