I am so happy!
Yesterday, "Modern Art" was born. He's just the perfect addition to our exclusively breeding program.HIS SIRE MAHAL!
"Modern Art" is one of the very rare "Perlino" - and I think the very first perlino-colored colt Deutsches Reitpferd in the world!
Please check out the picture!
I am so happy!
Yesterday, "Modern Art" was born. He's just the perfect addition to our exclusively breeding program.HIS SIRE MAHAL!
"Modern Art" is one of the very rare "Perlino" - and I think the very first perlino-colored colt Deutsches Reitpferd in the world!
Please check out the picture!
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Et vera incessu patuit dea. (Aenid I, 405)
And her stride revealed she was a true goddess.
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What color is your mare Mahal? I did not find Noa on your site...just curious what color she is. She must be a buckskin, or you have a very rare colored mare as well, to produce a perlino. Congratulations on your new foal! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_smile.gif
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Beautiful baby...congrats! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_smile.gif I'm curious what the parents' colors are. Evidentially, from your certainty that this is perlino, one of them has been tested homozygous for the black gene(?). Curious...
Mahal, I found a Noha on your site, not a Noa, which is what is on your photo of your new foal. If, Noha is the mare of your new foal and she is cremello as she appears on your site, then you have a cremello colt not a perlino. A cremello to palomino is 50% chance of palomino and 50% chance of cremello...there is no other choices for a palomino to a cremello breeding. If, your mare is cremello, then your new foal is a cremello not a perlino. In order for your foal to be a perlino then the dam must be a smokey black, smokey creme, perlino or a buckskin when bred to your palomino stallion. Here is a color chart for you to see for your self, that you indeed have a nice cremello colt, not a perlino. He is very cute and cremellos are nice too! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c.../icon_wink.gifhttp://www.horsecolor.com/dilutions/cream/foal_chart.htm
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Noa is a Cremello mare, she was bred to Apollon in 2001 and since Mahal is a Palomino, the colt can only be a Cremello or a Palomino. If he has light blue eyes he definitely is a cremello. Cremello x Palomino can only produce 50% Palomino and 50% Cremello, that is genetics. Sorry for no better news.
The one and only Perlino German WB so far was born in 1990 by my Buckskin stallion Upper Class out of the Palomino mare Novella. She was sold to Hannover. I attached a picture.
to aurum and Norsire
Thank you for your congratulations.
I very well understand that you mistrust my announcement of the very first perlino German Warmblood colt. Yes, his dam is Noa, a cremello mare, and his sire is Mahal, a palomino.
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As a matter of fact, my colt, Modern Art, is definitely a perlino.
He can't be a cremello:
You may know, a cremello does have a very bright skin AND blue eyes.
As you can see on that picture, Modern Art doesn't have blue eyes like his mother, Noa. His eyes are dark blue
He also can't be a Palomino:
A palomino always does have white mane and tail, his coat is always darker.
As you can see on the pictures, Modern Art's mane, tail and coat, even his eyelashes do have the same color - they look like apricose-gold.
So, what else do you think can Modern Art be?
He's definitely a perlino.
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First I would like to say, congratulations!!!!
I Would have to agree with Norsire & Aurum...
Geneticly speaking...it would be impossible to get a perlino from a cremello and Palomino....
Your colts eyes may lighten with the next few weeks to come and coat colour can change a lot in the first few months after birth... Nevertheless.....Nice Colt....
Here are a few links for you to look at that may help explain...
Mahal, I hate to burst your bubble,but from what you are descriping now, you have a palomino colt and not even a cremello. First of all, if the colt was not born with very light aqua blue eyes you don't even have a cremello. Second a perlino will also have very light aqua blue eyes at birth. Eyes do not get lighter as they get older but darker. What you are seeing is a palomino colt with the dark greyish/blue eyes that will turn brown, just as human babies do as they get older. Thirdly you can NOT get a perlino from a palomino to a cremello, it is just geneticly IMPOSSIBBLE period!!!! No one here is try to be mean, but just simply explain the very basics of color gentics as provided in the color chart for you that I gave the link to in above post. I have several foals I will post that have the same color mane as body color when they are born. Here are some examples for you.
Example 1 Dreaming In Gold, he looks alot like your colt, he was very apricot gold color as a young foal, he now has a very white mane, tail and forelock and his coat is more golden than apricot color now that he is older. http://www.norsire.com/dreamingingold.html
Example 4 Wishing Well Of Gold This fillies photo's were taken at 8 hours old. She looks like a cremello, but is a palomino, because it is genticly impossible for her to be a cremello because the mare was chestnut bred to my cremello TB stallion Zillionair..with this combo the foal can only be one color, 100% palomino. When you breed chestnut to cremello the resulting foal can only be PALOMINO 100% of the time. http://www.norsire.com/wishingwell.html
Mahal your foal is a palomino and can not be PERLINO. I hope you understand now what I'm trying to explain and maybe the photos I posted will help you see you indeed have a palomino. You will find as he grows older, this eyes will get darker and darker and his mane, tail and forelock will turn more white and his body color will be come more golden. There are so many shades of palomino color.
When, I bred my mare Issue's Call a chestnut to Gold Apollo, the first time I got a palomino filly. The second time, I got a very strawberry blonde/apricot gold color. I was convinced it was as very light chestnut in color so I took my mare back to breed her back for a third time, as I wanted a palomino colt to keep as a stallion prospect. When I arrived with my mare for the live cover with my "chestnut" colt, they informed me I indeed had a palomino colt and not a chestnut as I had thought. I did breed my mare back anyway and got Issue of Gold my current stallion who is the sire of my two cremellos. I did geld Golden Miracle and he turned out to be the most beautiful DARK palomino with the whitest mane, tail and forelock, I had ever seen. By the time Issue of Gold came along I had two palomino colts and then chose Issue of Gold and gelded the other palomino and sold him. So, you see foal color can fool the untrained eye. With my chestnut mare I knew I could only get two colors chestnut or palomino and I was just sure I had a chestnut. So, Mahal the moral of the story is you have a very apricot golden colored palomino colt that will show his true colors in time. Good luck with your palomino colt, he is very nice! Just don't try to make him something, genticly impossible, which would be a perlino with a palomino to cremello mating! I truely hope you now understand what we are all trying to tell you. He is still a very nice colt! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c.../icon_cool.gif
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[This message was edited by Norsire on Apr. 05, 2003 at 06:21 PM.]
I am sorry but that colt is not even a cremello, he is a Palomino.
First of all a Perlino is born exactly the same as a Cremello with light blue eyes and pink skin , but has some darker and reddish mane and tail (look at the picture of my filly that I posted) and your colt looks exactly like some Palominos are born. In my barn Palominos are born since more than 20 years now and so I should know.
Second there are genetics! It is JUST NOT POSSIBLE that a Perlino is produced out of a Cremello and by a Palomino! AND a Perlino looks totally different, I had one born - see above - and so I know how they look.
From your picture and description, that colt is a Palomino and nothing else, wait for about a week and the nose and part around the eyes will get darker. Palominos are often born with greyish and dark blue eyes.
This is just as it is, you will have to accept it.
