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    Default Anyone on here breed Warmblood mares to Arabian stallions?

    I have been told that they tend to be less "arab-y" and more sporthorse type than the common reverse (Arab mare to WB stallion). Is this true? Anyone have any nice crosses out of a WB mare?



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    Trakehner breeders do. To Trakehner approved Arabian stallions, that is. Eg Aul Magic and Al Mahrah Quebec.



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    Default I'd love to see an Aul Magic x Trakhenner baby

    He's one of my favorite Arabs!!!! Would love to see him crossed on a TK mare.

    PePo - I've usually just seen the reverse. Arabian mare owners taking them to WB studs.

    Could be true that you'd get more size and possibly more WB type out of a WB mare..... (given the womb that the foal is baking in!)
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    I bred one of my imported Trak mares to an Arabian stallion.

    We needed a live cover to kick start her and there was a really nice Polish stallion on the ranch.

    My mare was a twin so she is only 15H.

    The resulting baby grew to about 14.1 or so, same size as the sire.

    He looks like a small warmblood.

    The mother is a saint in the temperament department.

    The baby has the stereotypical Arabian brain.



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    I prefer a bit of TB in the cross which your mare might have.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fancy That View Post
    Could be true that you'd get more size and possibly more WB type out of a WB mare..... (given the womb that the foal is baking in!)
    That just determines foaling size.

    Adult height and type are determine by genetics (with height also having other factors).

    There are certainly WB stallions who are known for producing nice sporthorse type offspring with Arab mares - Rosenthal and Manhattan to name 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolita1 View Post
    I prefer a bit of TB in the cross which your mare might have.
    My mare? Not a dab of TB that I can see for miles

    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/georgiana+hh

    My first horse was an anglo arab, I absolutely loved her. That cute little Arab stallion on the dressage board got my brain working.

    You can actually make money showing at the Arab shows



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    Default several picture of crosses to Aul Magic here

    http://www.sovereignhorses.com/for-sale.html

    Scroll down you can view a few



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    That Horatio by Aul Magic has some size!



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    Here is one! 16.3hh grey, 9yo stallion. He's very spunky. 50% Arabian, 25% tb, 25% Danish Warmblood.

    http://www.meridianwarmbloods.com/stallions.html

    Pedigree

    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/inde...mall_font=1&l=



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    Most all of my Anglo Arabians are TB mares to Arab stallions for F1. One of my TBs is Selle Francais approved. Her Anglo foals range from 16.1H to 17H.

    You can see them all at:

    http://www.allanglos.com/Anglo_Arabians.html

    Plus some on the sold page:

    http://www.allanglos.com/Sold.html

    The only ones that are the reverse, Arab mare to a TB stallion, are the two palomino fillies on the Anglo page and the bay mare on the sold page (who is by Final Pool out of a pure polish Arabian mare).
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    I bred my holst/sf mare to an Arabian stallion. The mare was 16.2 and the stallion is 14.0. The foal is 15. hands at 18 months, so he will have some height but definitely refined from his mother. Next year, I get to show the foal in hand at arab sporthorse shows.

    In 2010, I will breed my new mare, an anglo trakehner to the same sire. This mare is not as heavy/coarse as the holst/sf mare. Will be exciting to see what happens.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jcotton View Post
    I bred my holst/sf mare to an Arabian stallion. The mare was 16.2 and the stallion is 14.0. The foal is 15. hands at 18 months, so he will have some height but definitely refined from his mother. Next year, I get to show the foal in hand at arab sporthorse shows.

    In 2010, I will breed my new mare, an anglo trakehner to the same sire. This mare is not as heavy/coarse as the holst/sf mare. Will be exciting to see what happens.
    Which stallion are you using?
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    You could breed her to a really small Arab and go for a fancy sport pony. You would have options for either dressage or hunters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clint View Post
    You could breed her to a really small Arab and go for a fancy sport pony. You would have options for either dressage or hunters.
    Never thought of that, but you could be right!

    That reminds me actually, Alex Gerding rode her once when I took a clinic with him. He's big into sport ponies and he said he'd love a whole stable full of GG's to ride and breed for GRP. I forgot all about that.

    As for me, I'm afraid I'd look really silly on a pony!



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    My family owned a gelding out of an ISH mare by an Arabian stud. He is a little fire-cracker. Love to jump, with good bone and a nice WB body type. His head carriage is a little highed than average, but he is very athletic and a great size 16.0h. Good brain too.

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    Believe it or not some dressage breeders in the Netherlands breed Dutch mares to Lipizzans to improve bone and hind end. I am importing from some Lipizzan frozen semen from there and the owner says she gets quite a few breeding from the Dutch WBs. As a Lipizzan breeder I really loved hearing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bats79 View Post
    Here is one! 16.3hh grey, 9yo stallion. He's very spunky. 50% Arabian, 25% tb, 25% Danish Warmblood.

    http://www.meridianwarmbloods.com/stallions.html

    Pedigree

    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/inde...mall_font=1&l=
    Nice trick to stand that grey so that the single white board in the fence goes right across his topline like that.



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    I have one of each.....

    And, since someone mentioned Rosenthal -- I will show you my Rosenthal boy! He is a 4-yr-old, out of a 15h Arab mare. He is currently 16.1 1/2....very uphill, fabulous canter. No doubt that there is Arab in there.


    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...P1000690-1.jpg
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...p/P1000669.jpg
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...P1000682-1.jpg

    I also have an 18-month old out of my imported Hanoverian mare. By an Arab stallion that I just love, (NV Beau Bey, who is the damsire of the above Rosenthal gelding) who typically throws pretty heads. This youngster is a powerhouse -- 15h, big mover....but he really reached back into momma's side of the family to get his rather suitcase-y D-line head!

    Don't have any current photos of him, as he has been in the yearling witness protection program until recently....but I will have to see if I can find a few shots of him when he was a baby. His older half sister (by Sempatico) has a MUCH prettier head! Go figure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Spring Farm View Post
    I have one of each.....

    And, since someone mentioned Rosenthal -- I will show you my Rosenthal boy! He is a 4-yr-old, out of a 15h Arab mare. He is currently 16.1 1/2....very uphill, fabulous canter. No doubt that there is Arab in there.


    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...P1000690-1.jpg
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...p/P1000669.jpg
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...P1000682-1.jpg

    I also have an 18-month old out of my imported Hanoverian mare. By an Arab stallion that I just love, (NV Beau Bey, who is the damsire of the above Rosenthal gelding) who typically throws pretty heads. This youngster is a powerhouse -- 15h, big mover....but he really reached back into momma's side of the family to get his rather suitcase-y D-line head!

    Don't have any current photos of him, as he has been in the yearling witness protection program until recently....but I will have to see if I can find a few shots of him when he was a baby. His older half sister (by Sempatico) has a MUCH prettier head! Go figure!
    Ooooohhhh I remember your beautiful boy. What a fantastic horse and he looks like he has only gotten better and better. Hope you are enjoying riding him I am jealous!
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