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    Default Most effective non-script anti-inflammatory?

    OK- beyond the range of the perscription drugs- what, in your opinion, are the BEST anti-inflammatories out there?

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    I am not anti-nutraceutical.

    That said...when you need something to work, having something that is proven to work via empirical data is a good thing.

    There ARE no non-prescription medications IMHO that I would want to use when what I really need is a good anti inflammatory. I'd use bute. Or I'd use banamine. Period. End. Full stop.

    The others out there like Devil's Claw are not fully tested, have a range of side effects that vary depending on concentration which is not regulated, etc.

    When you need something to work, I vote use the stuff proven to work.
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    aspirin
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    why do you want non prescription?



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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyRoo View Post
    I am not anti-nutraceutical.

    There ARE no non-prescription medications IMHO that I would want to use when what I really need is a good anti inflammatory. I'd use bute. Or I'd use banamine. Period.
    ^^^^^
    I think if you really need one, you're wasting your money with nutraceuticals.



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    ICE



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    Quote Originally Posted by mroades View Post
    aspirin
    Wow. It has been so long since I have used aspirin, I forgot you can even give it to horses.



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    I've had good longterm success with both SmartFlex Sr. and Smart TLC (both contain Devil's Claw). If I need an anti-inflammatory on a sporadic basis (i.e. not daily or for a few weeks at a time), I use aspirin, bute or banamine depending on the circumstances. I don't think Devil's Claw and similar non-scrip products give similar results in a short period of time.



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    I've heard good things about Microlactin/Duralactin.



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    Are we talking bred mare? Then be sure to stay away from devil's claw.

    I prefer bute and banamine, but if my that is all the client can afford I will give them a dose range for aspirin.

    Then there are ice, hydrotherapy, whirlpool therapy, and compression that also work well.
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    We have given 10 tablets of Aleve (naproxen) when we have not had any bute. We always keep Aleve at home for the people, so it is also available for the horses in a pinch. I always keep a bottle of Banamine at home in case of a colic. In a pinch, you can give a dose of Banamine for lameness or fever, if you don't have bute. I usually don't buy bute because it always seems to be out of date when I finally need it.



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    Wow. The OP must be wondering if most of the people who answered actually *read* her question

    MSM, short term at higher doses than indicated on the packaging, is a highly effective anti-inflammatory.
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    The OP asked about "non-perscription" [sic] drugs, and this list would include aspirin and some of the human NSAIDs.

    I'd put all the NSAIDs in the same bucket, efficacy-wise and risk-wise.

    And I'd put everything else back on the shelf, personally.
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    Thank you to those well-intended folks, who do not read for comprehension!

    And a big thanks to those, who do!

    I am looking for long term options, with as few side effects, as possible.

    However, I am fascinated by the mention of Aleve- which, as DW stated is an nsaid. I have never used it on a horse, because it rips right through my stomach, so I don't keep it around.

    Any actual long term experience with it in horses? Other nsaids? Side effects (DW?)

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    Ameriherb (you have to request a login ... but it's worth it. They NEVER send spam-selling-type emails) has Calendula flowers petals for $7.00 a pound (and that's a lot!)

    I had a concussion founder with my QH a number of years ago, and a "specialist" (no, not a vet, a farrier) recommended them. He ate them happily and it seemed to help his tootsies. Now, I would give you some links... but when I search for "Calendula anti-inflammatory" I started seeing a number of animal tests that were being done ... so I stopped.

    Anyway, just passing on some experience. Valid? I don't have a clue ... but the horse sure enjoyed them, so that was something! The extremely precise dose was ... oh, about a handful.
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    As I said, ALL NSAIDS have virtually an identical side effect/risk profile, and a virtually identical efficacy profile. You do get variability in dosing interval--for instance, aspirin has to be dosed multiple times per day to get a potent anti-inflammatory effect, whereas some of the others are OK with once- or twice-daily dosing. But I would NOT consider one or the other "safer" because they are all virtually identical in terms of risk of ulcers, etc. That goes for bute, banamine, aspirin, aleve, etc. etc.

    Someone posted a link to a study in The Horse (which is not a scientific journal, but does discuss things on a slightly higher level in terms of requiring actual data, unlike rags like the Horse Journal) that did a small but properly done study of rose hips in racehorses. They gave a whopping amount, and their data (as yet unpublished) suggested some possible benefits, but it's all preliminary and what they considered a measurable benefit is unknown/not listed in the abstract. Still, it's a small step in the right direction.
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    If your concern is side effects from long term use, depending on the site, you can use topical NSAIDs such as Surpass. There is some evidence that it has few bad effects on the stomach than oral NSAIDs. Surpass is prescription only.

    Some vets are prescribing cox 2 inhibitors such as Equioxx. The idea is that they should be easier on the stomach. In humans, cox 2 inhibitors have a bit of a bad history. Everyone and his brother was prescribing them for a while because they were supposedly "safe" NSAIDs. Then, studies started being published showing that they have cardiovascular risks.

    In humans, bute seems to be more toxic than other NSAIDs. It is no longer used in the US for humans. It would be interesting to see if there are any veterinary studies to show if other NSAIDs such as naproxen/Aleve have fewer side effects than bute in horses.



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    MSM at double the recommended dose



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    Ditto the MSM, and it is cheap to boot!!



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    You may want to talk to your vet about previcox it is precription but is not nearly as hard on the stomach as bute and alot cheeper than equioxx.



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