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    Default Got the "Blue Tongue"? Here's the Answer.

    Last edited by Mike Matson; Nov. 25, 2009 at 07:59 PM.
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    Default Blue Tongue Blues...

    French version is pretty damn good too!

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    Oh boy, I see it coming now...duck!!! I mean, put the tongue back in...this is going to be a long thread!



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    I think of it as the Hannibal Lector solution to horses putting their tongue out. At least it involves no chianti and fava beans!



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    Default I think your slip is showing

    One question;

    The video that sparked outrage was of a male riding a horse, so why is the rider depicted as obviously female on this site ?

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    Perhaps because this is not about that particular rider but about a practice that produces these kinds of side effects. I think its actually nice that she did not make that rider the villain. Also could be because this is the author of SuperPrix and in her satire of Dressage in 2060, only 110lb women are allowed to compete. Possibly it is force of illustration habit. She may not even have thought of it.



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    Perhaps because this is not about that particular rider but about a practice that produces these kinds of side effects. I think its actually nice that she did not make that rider the villain.
    If that were the case it wouldn't have been necessary to assign a gender to the rider at all.
    Also could be because this is the author of SuperPrix and in her satire of Dressage in 2060, only 110lb women are allowed to compete. Possibly it is force of illustration habit. She may not even have thought of it.
    Let's not pretend to be naive. If the author has a satire to promote, the idea that the thought didn't occur is very unlikely.
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    I am not naive and I know this author. I think she drew a female rider because that's what she is used to drawing not to make a particular statement. I can ask her and report back if you would like How do you not attribute a gender to the rider? And, does this rider remind you of someone in particular?



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    If that were the case it wouldn't have been necessary to assign a gender to the rider at all.
    E.T. riding a blue tongued horse may have been more politically correct



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    Cute, Mike. Very cute.



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    I am not naive
    Have it your way then, disingenuous.
    I can ask her and report back if you would like
    I doubt the reply would be candid or credible.
    How do you not attribute a gender to the rider?
    Ah gee ... any number of ways, use neutral colored clothing, don't represent the figure above the waist.
    And, does this rider remind you of someone in particular?
    Why do you ask? Is it supposed to?

    It isn't about political correctness. It is about accurately representing an incident that sparked the discussion and revelation of bias.
    But hey it goes to what I have long believed is the real issue. This isn't about horse welfare as much as it is about other issues
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    re: gender - can you imagine the screams of "Witch Hunt!!!!" that would be heard around the world if that cartoon were of a guy?

    the point is to get the point across without it being a personal attack.

    the fact that it is a female (or gender reassignment?) goes along with all the artists other art.

    i honestly don't understand what the angst about this?



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    Clearly the artist made a bit of a boob when she drew this.



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    Default what they bank on

    well if you need someone to blame; it all started with Eve

    I don't have any inside info here but I have spent some time in the EU. The establishment there doesn't see things the way we in the US do.
    To them it is probably a major issue that a "scurrilous" trainer (who is a "flatlander" and whose protege is a woman) has produced a system that the old establishment hasn't been able to beat. The dutch keep kicking their a$$. That is troublesome for many.
    Last edited by nhwr; Nov. 26, 2009 at 04:17 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fburton View Post
    Clearly the artist made a bit of a boob when she drew this.



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    Mike - whatever little respect I used to have for you just went down the drain....
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    Quote Originally Posted by siegi b. View Post
    Mike - whatever little respect I used to have for you just went down the drain....
    Why Siegi Mike didn't do this oh and it was on eurodressage as well.
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    I don't respect people that just have to stir the pot....

    That's all Mike's post was about - nothing else.
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    Well, I found it mildly amusing. Sometimes a little light satire is necessary and useful. Thanks, Mike!



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