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  1. #1
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    Default Help with Spanish phrases

    Hi everyone,
    I have a new student (novice rider) who just moved to Canada from Spain, and speaks no English. I know a tiny bit of Spanish, and I've figured out the basics (walk, trot, canter, stop, slow down, etc.). But there are a few things I'm having trouble with. Does anyone know how to say the following:

    - Check your diagonal/switch your diagonal - I have a feeling this doesn't translate literally.

    - Wrong lead/change leads

    - Soften your hands/don't pull on the horse's mouth - anything along those lines?

    - 2-point position - she knows how to do this, but I don't what it's called

    Thanks!



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    If you're really stuck you can try Babelfish translator, but only try individual words, or you might get some pretty weird translations.



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    Highly recommend picking up "The Ultimate Horseman's English/Spanish Dictionary", by Maria Belknap.
    Very comprehensive. We have had multiple copies for staff/boarders/students/gifts over the years...and we have the posters up in a couple of places for quick reference.
    I recall it being available @ Amazon, but if not the site for her books and barn posters is horsewords.com
    Hope this is helpful.
    Cheers-
    Rev
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    How about that student learning English asap?
    When in Rome and all that...

    I do think it is sweet of you to try to learn spanish.

    For what is worth, best I remember, you could say:


    ---"- Check your diagonal/switch your diagonal - I have a feeling this doesn't translate literally.

    Por favor, cambie su diagonal al trote.
    Please, change the trotting diagonal.

    - Wrong lead/change leads

    Usted esta en galope a la izquierda I tiene que galopar a la derecha.
    You are galloping on the left and need to gallop on the right.

    - Soften your hands/don't pull on the horse's mouth - anything along those lines?

    Use las manos de una manera mas suave, no tire on las riendas.
    Use the hands lightly, don't pull on the reins.

    - 2-point position - she knows how to do this, but I don't what it's called

    Levantese en los estribos.
    Stand up on the stirrups.

    Don't know that there is a name for 2 point position, just show what you mean.


    I will say that, without someone showing you the phonetics, how to pronounce each letter in the words, you will have a comedy of errors there.

    The good part of this is that speaking "horse" is universal, with much "body english", so you will get by fine.



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    Another vote for "The Ultimate Horseman's English/Spanish Dictionary", very comprehensive and useful.
    Kanoe Godby
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    See, I was raised by wolves and am really behind the 8-ball on diplomatic issue resolution.



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    Spanish pronunciation 101:

    1. pronounce every letter (no silent e)

    2. pronounce the vowels as:
    a- ahh
    e- hard A
    i- eee
    o- Hard O
    u - ooo (as in ooo, what a nice saddle that is)

    3. Generally, pronounce every vowel, even when they are next to each other

    4. From the examples above, QU makes a K sound.
    Izquierda - eeez kee Ar dah



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    Thank you very much!

    And yes, I'm hoping she learns English quickly, but I'm interested in learning more Spanish anyway, so I don't mind studying a bit.



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    2. pronounce the vowels as:
    a- ahh
    e- hard A
    i- eee
    o- Hard O
    u - ooo (as in ooo, what a nice saddle that is)


    e is actually pronounced "ehh"

    o should be softer, not a hard o unless it is in the "stressed" syllable

    also remember that nouns have gender so it wouldn't be "las manos" for hands, it would be "los manos."

    also of note:

    j is prounounced like an H. (Juan, Juana, juntas)
    LL is prounounced like a Y (llama, llave, llamar)
    H is silent (huevos, hablar)
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    ---"also remember that nouns have gender so it wouldn't be "las manos" for hands, it would be "los manos.""---



    It is "LAS manos":

    http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/hands



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    ---"also remember that nouns have gender so it wouldn't be "las manos" for hands, it would be "los manos.""---



    It is "LAS manos":

    http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/hands
    Bluey's correct, "mano" is feminine, kind of one of the trickier ones. Kinda like how "agua" is masculine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sublimequine View Post
    Bluey's correct, "mano" is feminine, kind of one of the trickier ones. Kinda like how "agua" is masculine.

    Sheesh, I've been saying it wrong for years then. I wish my Spanish speaking half of my family would correct me when I do that!
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