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  1. #1
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    Default Why listen to the vet and not your doctor??

    Just food for thought or maybe just thought: Why do people listen to their vets as if they are Gods and not to their own doctors? The vet comes out and says, that horse needs to lose 100 lbs and the horse is muzzled or put in a dry lot. If the vet says, that horse needs to be stalled for 60 days because of an injury, the horse is stalled, no matter how much work is involved in cleaning the stall or how crazy the horse gets.

    Then that same person goes to their doctor and he says, you need to lose 50 pounds, and the person does nothing. Or the doctor says, you need to stay off that leg for 30 days, and that same person is running around on it a week later.

    Does your vet just know more or is it easier to take care of others than take care of yourself?



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    Hey, I'm at a med school, and SOME MDs I listen to. Some I ignore. But I trust my vet like I trust my car place - I've been with them for years, they don't cheat me, they know what they're doing. I KNOW they know more than I do.

    But sometimes it's a bit disconcerting when an MD prescribes ampicillin for an infection, after you have just told them you are highly allergic to penicillin and all its derivatives. HELLO! Did you sleep through that part of the boards?
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    I bet that if someone took care of you the way you took care of your horse, you'd being doing what the doctor said. The horse doesn't have a choice whether or not it's stalled; that's your decision. But because no one is taking care of you like that, you can do whatever you want or don't want as far as listening to advice goes.



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    It's simple...I like my DVM better than my MD. She realizes that I am not a bountiful source of disposable income, that I really am smart enough to know the difference between a virus and a bacteria, and that I am capable of putting on a bandaid or tying my shoes.
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    It's your body and you know how it feels.

    However, we don't know how our horses feel.
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    And you gotta love all the excuses for not following doctor's orders!
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    I listen to my one doctor (lymes specialist) but then again he seems more like a vet. Heck dresses like one. Listens. Remembers. And is open to calling me an idiot when need be. I also listen to my ankle guy that does my injections, well to a certain extent. My regular doctor? Pfff. They can't seem to remember anything, which is why I don't bother to go to them usually. Heck I use to have a great vet that I would ask him questions instead of going to my doctor. Hehe..... he even did x rays to check for injuries on me at times, boy do I miss him!



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    I think it's exactly that it is easier to take care of someone or something else than it is to take care of yourself. When I don't listen to my doctors I usually know I should, but since it's me I can rationalize all sorts of reasons not to. I don't make that sort of decision for others and instead follow medical advice.



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    #1 - my vet listens when I talk. My doctors, not so much. Though I did finally switch to a decent dentist after the hack who prescribed the exact painkiller I'd JUST told him made me sick.

    #2 - opposable thumbs make it waaaaaay easier for me to open the fridge and thus, temptation.



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    'Cause, honey, it's really different when *I'm* the one on dry lot!

    Also, I'd be psyched to have my vet inject any of my aging joints. It would be cheaper, probably better researched and planned than would the same service be from some MD. In terms of non-surgical orthopedic medicine, I think vets high-end performance horse are way ahead.

    I don't see why we couldn't have "Mommy and Me Spa Day" for the horse and I. We'd both go to the clinic, get various and sundry things injected and then get back to our sport. It would be a bonding experience.
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    It depends on the doctor for me. I have had doctors who I have seen for over 2 years for the same problem that have asked me if the problem bothers me. Well of course it bothers me! I don't spend my hard earned money and subject myself to often painful tests and take tons of time off work just for fun. So, when the doctor can't remember my name and acts like an idiot I am less inclined to listen to that doctor. However, My rheumatologist and current GP both listen to me and have established that they respect my priorities. Because of that, I listen to them because I know they have my best interest at heart, just like I know my vet has my horses' best interest at heart.
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    For me, I have a way better relationship with my vet then I do my Dr. I would imagine I'm not alone on this.

    Maybe part of it is because I've seen my vet more often then my Dr. But I have to echo a few others....my vet LISTENS to me. Pays attention. My Dr? eh, not so much.



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    I think CosM has it right. Our horses are our responsibility in regards to their health. They can't make those decisions, but we can...we can 'control' some of that by simply paying for it. Our own health is something we must face and that 'kind' of responsibility is easier to avoid because of many things.
    Its very (!) similar to me as the same situation of what health precautions and needs you are proactive about for your children, that you avoid and do not face for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by equineartworks View Post
    It's simple...I like my DVM better than my MD. She realizes that I am not a bountiful source of disposable income, that I really am smart enough to know the difference between a virus and a bacteria, and that I am capable of putting on a bandaid or tying my shoes.
    I'm with you on this equineartworks!! My doc (the human kind) is pretty good about telling me like it is. I, on the other hand, realize that if I did everything he said, my horses would suffer - i.e. torn rotator cuff, no lifting...uhm horses need hay and feed and the stalls need cleaning..so I do the lifting, but I TRY to make it simple and use gravity and motorized vehicles when ever possible.

    Horse doc has my complete and full attention at any time. I never call unless it is necessary and yes, I've been up at 4 am cold hosing a leg, DMSO, packing in ice, etc. for a mare that had a suspensory and stalled her and bought the recommended meds..

    she's sound as a button now (would say dollar but gee..). If I treated me like I did that mare..I'd be sound too. But I'm the only one here 99 percent of the time and I HAVE to do things or the horses suffer, so I ignore my doc and go onward. However, I will never ignore my doc regarding pneumonia again, I thought I was going to drown and some days wished I would. Nasty stuff!

    I think it all boils down to: the horses need us. We can cope we think. I cannot bare to think of a horse hungry or needing it's stall cleaned or fresh water. I am converting most everything over to automatics to help me help them..auto waterers in stalls, frost free hydrants in paddocks, etc.

    Now if I can just figure out an auto stall cleaning thing...edited to add: my vet listens to me and has time to listen, my doctor..for 100.00 per visit I get maybe 5 minutes of his time. How I long for the old days when a doctor had time for his patients. I have had the same doc(s) for the last 25 years, not once has one asked me a simple question about me..most don't know much about me other than height, weight, BP, etc. and I feel like most of them don't care much one way or another. If my vet could treat me, I'd put him right on the payroll. Many times I feel like he knows me way better than my regular doctor because he takes the time to listen to ME. If I had a doctor that would really sit and listen to me for ten minutes, I'd think I was at the vet's office though..lol.. Not saying my doc is bad or anything, he just has to make his numbers and that means seeing as many patients per hour as he can squeeze in.

    When I was little..my doctor KNEW me, he knew I rode horses, he knew I didn't eat properly (too busy) and he would fuss at me..

    Now it seems that doctors just don't care that much as long as they meet their "quota". Sad really, I'd pay more for a doctor that had 15 minutes to spare..but unfortunately it's "get them in and out"..sort of like a horse auction.



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    1. Opposable thumbs is right! Restricting the horse's caloric intake means I don't have to lift as much. (Also, 100 lbs for a horse is more like 10 lbs for a human).

    2. My vet knows me and recognizes me by sight. My doc has no idea who I am.
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    If the doctors were as good as my vet, I'd listen to them too. But I've been misdiagnosed way too many times to just do what they say without question. I question my vet too, but he takes the time to explain things. He also treats me like I'm a reasonably intelligent person.



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    My vet plans reasonable times for their visits - they don't try and rush in and out to keep their 15 minute/patient schedule. Like others said, my vet listens better the my family med Dr. I'm very happy to now have DH daughter and her fiancee as Drs - I tried to convince his daughter to go to vet school instead
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    My vet would come out to see my horse in an emergency, and time of the day or night, and in any kind of weather. My Dr. wouldn't see me in her office without an appointment, even if I was seriously ill. I just got told to go to Emergency.

    I have a new Dr. But, if I still had Promise, I'd still have the same vet.
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    I agree, my vet listens better, REMEMBERS me..(and I've had the same GP since birth.....), works to find a solution instead of just pushing drugs, and takes the TIME to figure something out. If my human docs did that...I'd be happier. As much as I pay BOTH of them, I want good service!



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    Dealing with a vet just seems simple and clear - and heck, they come to you when you need them. Who wants to go spend an hour sitting in a waiting room with sick people reading bad magazines, then have to sit another hour in a paper gown on a cold table...

    I wish I could just deal with the vet for my own ills too!



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