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    Talking Diarado foals

    We are so happy to have two of our holsteiner mares in foal this year to Diarado for spring 2010. Just wondering how many people bred to him since this was his first year being able to get semen? Or if anyone has any imported babies by him I would love to see photos..Thanks
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    I've got a mare in foal to him, due mid-april, no photos of offspring myself, but here's what I've found online:
    photos & videos from Schockemoehle - http://www.schockemoehle.com/en/serv...ash=fb0af39bbf
    European breeder's offspring - http://tingholmhorses.dreamware.dk/j...dilloligorett-
    Oldenburg foal auction - there's a Diarado baby & video http://www.oldenburger-pferde.com/horses/67_2889.php

    I think there may have been a Diarado baby at Hanoverian foal auction as well, but don't have the link to that offhand. Looks like he's throwing his hind end, hopefully he'll throw the jump too!



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    it would be really great to know the pedigrees and physical descriptions of the mares you have in foal to him.

    the first report of his initial foal crop was that the quality was high but they tended to be on the smaller side. this would suggest finding a big, framey, blooded mare for him. i constantly have him in mind and was there when he wowed the world with his freejump in neumunster in nov '07, but so far just the right mare hasn't come up for me yet. i have a couple of 2yo's who will get bred first next year who may then be candidates for him.

    please give some detail as to who you have bred to him, and stams.

    thank you!
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    The two mares that we used for the diarado breedings are wishful thinking and whispering star. I have photos and full pedigrees on the website that you can see. http://www.hunterjumperprospects.com Both Mares are very nice. I am not sure how big wispering star will get but her movement and blood combination will be amazing. The other mare is a power house not too heavy but very powerful. She will be a late bloomer. Her sire is 17 hands but didnt mature until he was 7 so she is stil growing. Thanks for the other posts with links
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    Quote Originally Posted by alison123 View Post
    We are so happy to have two of our holsteiner mares in foal this year to Diarado for spring 2010. Just wondering how many people bred to him since this was his first year being able to get semen? Or if anyone has any imported babies by him I would love to see photos..Thanks
    LUCKY!! I love this stallion.



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    Thanks I do feel Lucky and very happy that things went well this breeding year. I will feel even better when I have two little ones on the ground though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ne1 View Post
    it would be really great to know the pedigrees and physical descriptions of the mares you have in foal to him.

    the first report of his initial foal crop was that the quality was high but they tended to be on the smaller side. this would suggest finding a big, framey, blooded mare for him. i constantly have him in mind and was there when he wowed the world with his freejump in neumunster in nov '07, but so far just the right mare hasn't come up for me yet. i have a couple of 2yo's who will get bred first next year who may then be candidates for him.

    please give some detail as to who you have bred to him, and stams.

    thank you!
    ne1
    I ahve seen him twice or three times. There were situations where I would not want to trust that what I saw was real or made, so I think for certain attributes it does not count. What I can say from those occasions is that he seems to have three athletic gaits not too bad for a nice overall horse to be used even in dressage tests. He himself is really on the smaller side this I would always take into consideration. I did not see huim jump at those occasions.
    Than I say him at another occasion freejumping and I was amazed by the rubberball attitude. And at the same occasion ridden by someone who has never ridden that horse before and it gave me a good impression for his rideablitity and again for the gaits.
    I have also heard a lot in this country about foals being on the smaller side. I have seen one out of hanoverian mare in the neighbourhood where I do not recall the bloodlines, which was a very refined and not too tall foal. I have not seen more, but I am not too much into jumper breeding, so I did not actively research this.
    I do not know: I think I would not need to use him as there are soooo many other breeders doing this and I am not really into using the flavour of the day unless I really believe they fit to my mares. I would wait with this stallion until the first ones are under saddle and 4yo, because this is when the first will show up in germany in jumping classes. So one is able to a see the final size of these horses and how many appear at shows and how they are.
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    Thank you for all the information. That was what I have heard and seen. Since I only breed a few horses at a time I could be spending a year or more trying to find just the right match. I look and analize every aspect of the match. I am trying to bred the best possible horse I can from every angle.The one mare that I have bred to in particular is a large beautiful holsteiner mare and when I saw Diarado suited her perfectly. I was looking for a stallion that had scope but would not make her too heavy and that had good gates. Rideability is always an issue as well as conformation. I do agree about not breeding to the flavor of the month. At the same time in the US this is only the first season he is available by frozen semen. So unless you have imported something, I will be lucky to have some of the first born here by him. We shall see.. Thanks Again for all the info. If any one comes up with more diarado foal or you are breeding to him please share...
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    I tried to do an embryo transfer this year and was unsuccessful. The frozen semen from Diarado is excellent in quality. We were able to retrieve one embryo on the first attempt. I am going to try again in the spring.
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    alexandra,

    great information, analysis and opinion!

    thank you!

    ne1



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    Blue moon farms you were able to get a sucessful embryo transfer using diarado. That is amazing. I have thought of using embryo transfers but havent taken that risk yet. Congrats on that.
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    Default Diarado foals

    We were able to produce several in California by ET with the frozen semen. We have in 2010 Diarado-Cassini II-Lavall-Ricardo (Ramiro) filly and two Diarado-Acorado-Landgraf-Ahorn Z fillies. THen in 2011 we have three more coming (a Diarado-Camiros (Contender)-Alcatraz; a Diarado-Concept-Lordship; and one other I can't remember right now. The FS is pretty good, We are very happy with the foals and you can see them on Facebook Branscomb Farm or our website.
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    I personally don't like them as a whole. They can be small , poor and not very noble or vibrant.

    I have seen a few that that were very nice but the breeders are not convinced. Maybe they will be good later on.

    Their stature comes at no surprise when you know the motherline.



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    Cant wait to see all the Diarado foals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayhawk View Post
    Their stature comes at no surprise when you know the motherline.
    I can believe that the size is coming from his mother line, because Diamant de Semilly and his mother line are not throwing small offspring.
    I have a perfect mare (huge QdR, on the stiff side) that will be a good match, but I'm also waiting to see how his babies will jump. (He himself is an amazing jumper)
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy.smaga View Post
    I can believe that the size is coming from his mother line, because Diamant de Semilly and his mother line are not throwing small offspring.
    I have a perfect mare (huge QdR, on the stiff side) that will be a good match, but I'm also waiting to see how his babies will jump. (He himself is an amazing jumper)
    No question about Diarado's ability. Super jumper.

    This just goes to show you how powerful a stamm can be with a given trait . Coriano , Corofino , Camiros , Diarado.......they all need big mares.

    Look at the Lord mare Option , and the question is easily answered.



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    I went to Schockemohle's this week after watching the Oldenburg grading. I was looking round for a dressage stallion but, as usual, keeping an open mind. The stallion that really caught my eye was Diarado.

    He's smaller (16.1ish) light side of middleweight and built very uphill. I'd even say he's "blood" in type and he's Ferro shaped while being much lighter in type. He's got good legs and good hooves. He gets a major thumbs up from the grooms for his behaviour in the stable and also from his riders. He's a nice person and very trainable.

    He has a good walk, overtracks by 12", and a nice trot. It isn't a huge dressage trot but those, to a large extent, can be manufactured. His dam has a very nice, very big trot so it may be in there. His canter is, of course, fantastic.

    I'm seriously thinking of using him on my mare to produce a foundation mare for breeding dressage horses. If the progeny doesn't like dressage it should have a good jump!

    Does that sound like a ridiculous idea? (The mare I'm thinking of using him on is Irish Draught x TB, she's cleared 1.70 many times out hunting and competed to PSG in dressage. She's a middleweight with slight sickle hocks (but no soundness issues and excellent ability to collect) and a slightly sloping croup.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by alison123 View Post
    We are so happy to have two of our holsteiner mares in foal this year to Diarado for spring 2010. Just wondering how many people bred to him since this was his first year being able to get semen? Or if anyone has any imported babies by him I would love to see photos..Thanks
    As others have said Diarado consistantly throws small, very blood type, he passes on his delicate and refined features, if you like bone and substance then walk away from Diarado. If your looking to add refinement and elegance than he is a good choice.

    His damline is consitantly made up of very small mares in the 16hh range



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    Quote Originally Posted by stolensilver View Post
    I went to Schockemohle's this week after watching the Oldenburg grading. I was looking round for a dressage stallion but, as usual, keeping an open mind. The stallion that really caught my eye was Diarado.

    He's smaller (16.1ish) light side of middleweight and built very uphill. I'd even say he's "blood" in type and he's Ferro shaped while being much lighter in type. He's got good legs and good hooves. He gets a major thumbs up from the grooms for his behaviour in the stable and also from his riders. He's a nice person and very trainable.

    He has a good walk, overtracks by 12", and a nice trot. It isn't a huge dressage trot but those, to a large extent, can be manufactured. His dam has a very nice, very big trot so it may be in there. His canter is, of course, fantastic.

    I'm seriously thinking of using him on my mare to produce a foundation mare for breeding dressage horses. If the progeny doesn't like dressage it should have a good jump!

    Does that sound like a ridiculous idea? (The mare I'm thinking of using him on is Irish Draught x TB, she's cleared 1.70 many times out hunting and competed to PSG in dressage. She's a middleweight with slight sickle hocks (but no soundness issues and excellent ability to collect) and a slightly sloping croup.)
    Doesn't sound ridiculous at all seeing as you are looking mostly for canter. He sure has that. Big mare , big mare , big mare.......can't stress it enough.



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    just coming home from the westfalian licensing with 4 diarados being shown. different impression from what i gathered atthe holstein licensing couple of weeks ago. those were on the lighter side and some holstein breeders even suggested diarado might add certain "refinement" (note: refinement having nothing to do with size as such but indeed, they weren't too big, either.)
    however, the four sons in westfalia were of the same shape/topline formation but most certainly did not support the idea of "refinement" or "smaller in size". hadn't i been to holstein before my impression from westfalia today would have been:
    substance.
    bone.
    body harmony and shape.
    so i truly believe it is a question of genetic mare dominance if or not he does or does not turn out lighter or even smaller progeny. the westfalian sons certainly do not support this thesis.



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