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  1. #1
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    Default does a slow twist, french link, dee ring bit exist?

    Just what the thread title says, does such a bit exist? I've seen lots of Dr. Bristol bits with a slow twist, but no french links.

    I've done numerous Google searches and cannot find one. I found one labeled as such on Ebay the other day, but the bit looks like a Dr. Bristol to me...

    A friend of mine insists such a bit exists, but I'm having trouble finding it. Any input?

    Thanks!



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    Yes, they do exist. I have one but can't remember where I got it. Sorry I can't help more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KristiKGC View Post
    Yes, they do exist. I have one but can't remember where I got it. Sorry I can't help more.
    Thanks! At least now I know my search isn't futile! I am coming across lots of bits listed as french link slow twists, but they are actuall mis-labeled Dr. Bristols. I found french link slow twist half cheeck driving bits, too... I will keep searching!



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    A client has such a bit . She got it from Jay Shuttleworth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by half seat View Post
    Just what the thread title says, does such a bit exist? I've seen lots of Dr. Bristol bits with a slow twist, but no french links.
    With a D-ring, it doesn't matter whether it started life as a French link or a Dr Bristol, the horse is free to rotate it into the French link position.

    A Dr Bristol ONLY works as a Dr Bristol (EDGE against toungue) if there is something (Baucher, full cheek with keepers) to prevent the horse from rotating into the French link (no edge against the tongue) position.

    I suspect you are confusing the distinction between Dr Bristol and French link (which refers to the ORIENTATION of the center piece) with the distinction between a "flat center piece French link", a "figure 8 center piece French link, and a "bean center piece French link".

    Suggest you look at the illustrations for "French link" in the Dressage and Eventing sections of the rule book.
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    Yep sure do, I have a couple but they are older, gosh knows where I got them!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Janet View Post
    With a D-ring, it doesn't matter whether it started life as a French link or a Dr Bristol, the horse is free to rotate it into the French link position.

    A Dr Bristol ONLY works as a Dr Bristol (EDGE against toungue) if there is something (Baucher, full cheek with keepers) to prevent the horse from rotating into the French link (no edge against the tongue) position.

    I suspect you are confusing the distinction between Dr Bristol and French link (which refers to the ORIENTATION of the center piece) with the distinction between a "flat center piece French link", a "figure 8 center piece French link, and a "bean center piece French link".

    Suggest you look at the illustrations for "French link" in the Dressage and Eventing sections of the rule book.
    Thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look. That makes sense and I agree I am probably just confused.



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    I had my local tack store order mine! Went in and looked thru their retailer catalog and showed the owner the exact one I wanted and they ordered it with no problem. So yes they do exist!



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    Calabasas Saddlery should have in stock off of the shelf! 818 591 0292 is their number.



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    The other thing about the "Dr. Bristol" dee is you can just turn the bit over and voila, it's a French Link as you've changed the orientation of the plate to flat from edge on.

    Tryi it.



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    Default Custom bit

    I second the Jay Shuttleworth suggestion. I have a mullen mouth fulmer snaffle he made for me and I use it every day. Costs about $200 to have him make you a custom bit. If you know it is what you want, it is worth every penny.



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    Another Jay Shuttleworth vote. He made two beautiful slow twist, dee ring bits for me that were/are works of art!
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