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    Default Spinoff, Really What Color Is She? New pics July 29th

    Here are some more pics I took outside this morning. Everyone was sent to the pens instead of the grass because of the weather.

    http://www.chronicleofmyhorse.com/ph...ums/coat-color

    I think I may have to have her color tested because each day a little more hair loss reveals a little more grey. Hard for me to get a whole picture of her as I am on my own and she's not one for standing back and letting me work! But you can see in the head and neck shot she is very bay. When you get to the shed out part she's pretty grey. Her tail is pretty silver too. I would say her rabicano gene is really expressing itself, but really I have no clue about this stuff. I know you all are looking for better pictures, but I am on my own this week so not a lot of time for picture shooting!

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    Here is my confusion. If she was really becoming a grey, wouldn't I see some sort of greying on her face? From the few hairs shedding on her legs they are solid black. And when searching for Rabicano pictures I keep seeing most of the ticking under the belly, stifles, and basically the back end of the horse. Not really seeing the ticking on neck and chest. I know technically the roan gene does not exist in TB's, but judging by her head and legs that's what she seems like.

    OK color experts, what have you got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrium View Post
    Here is my confusion. If she was really becoming a grey, wouldn't I see some sort of greying on her face?
    Not necessarily. Graying on the face/head is the most common sign of gray however not all horses start from the head/face. Some actually get progressively darker and darker (from gray) and then all of a sudden its very obvious the horse is gray, when up until then it did not truly look 100% gray. There are also horses that start from the back/butt and gray forward rather than gray from the front back.
    And when searching for Rabicano pictures I keep seeing most of the ticking under the belly, stifles, and basically the back end of the horse.
    That is where rabicano is, yes. Tail head, flank, and belly.
    Not really seeing the ticking on neck and chest.
    Sabino roan roans all over the horse.
    I know technically the roan gene does not exist in TB's, but judging by her head and legs that's what she seems like.
    Technically, it does, just not in the general population. But it DOES sound like thats what you have. Its also more likely that its sabino roaning.

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    I have a chestnut mare that has white hairs sprinkled throughout her coat including on her neck, chest and sides when she has her summer coat. She is 12 this year and is not going grey.

    I had a friends mare that used to live with me that was basically black in colour, but at different times of the year she would have white hairs sprinkled through her coat from the top of her back down to underneath her on her belly area - from shoulders to flanks.

    The stallion Redwine has a patch of white hairs in his coat that I believe runs from up near his throat to down near his shoulder on his right side and if I recall correctly, it's on his chest a bit too, you can see it in the picture here:
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    Default Some pics today

    Here are some more recent ones taken today. She's nearly shed out, but not there completely. We're very roany as you can see from the close ups. It was impossible to get full body shots as she won't leave you alone or she was standing the wrong way with the sun.

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...&id=1155878404

    If your not on Facebook, I can email you the pics.

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    Your absolutely 110% positive that you are completely sure you know who the sire of this foal is?
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    She screams 'going grey' to me.
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    DNA test confirms stallion!

    To me everything else screams bay. Look it, the last time I was around a horse of this color and it was the exact same color was my friends connemara pony. He was a bay roan.

    It just doesn't look like she's greying to me, she actually looks more of a roan color. I would lean towards that before I said grey. I mean really, both are an impossiblility!

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    I think you should test her, because the suspense is killing me. Send me some hair....



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    I promise I will get her tested! Just at the moment we are catching up on a mountain of bills. People don't pay us and it gets hard to pay who we owe. I know it's not a lot of money for the test, but just had to come up with an extra 500pds for the bloody Yearling Bonus for the yearling sales and have 1000 due for registrations of the TB foals plus regular bills! So give me time and it will get done!

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    I agree that true roan is more what I was seeing, and not gray.

    She almost definitely has some form of sabino, and its probably just sabino ticking, but that is some of the loudest Ive seen on a fairly minimal horse.
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    She looks sabino + rabicano to me.

    I once knew a sabino that resembled a blue roan -- he had an equal number of dark and white hairs interpersed over most of his body.



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    Here's Penelope finally finished shedding. Warning, the picture is not the best, she's standing awkward as the cattle were causing a bit of a ruckus and she was wondering why! So she looks a bit yakky!

    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/...1.jpg&newest=1

    Closer on her body:
    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/...3.jpg&newest=1

    And one from this morning with me - I just love her! They were in last night on the account of torrential rain and very cool temps.
    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/...0.jpg&newest=1

    So I'm guessing it's just the Rabicano and Sabino working together, but she's still cool to look at!

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    DEFINITELY see heavy rabicano roaning. No doubt in my mind. Very cute filly! Got a pic of the base of her tail by chance? Looks like she has a textbook rabicano skunk tail.
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    She is just adorable. Gotta say that has to be one of the heaviest cases of rabicano roaning I think I've ever seen. It'll be interesting to see what happens to her coat as she ages.
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    What a cute filly, she has a great expression (in addition to the fun color).

    I vote rabicano. No roan. No gray.

    I do think it's a lot of "roaning" for rabicano but I think you CAN see that much from rabicano. It's just not as common as the light ticking, but it is out there.

    This is my Somerset, who has no reason to be true roan (Aristos B x TB dam). He has a LOT of "roaning" all over and I swear he has more and more each time I look...

    http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...likesgrass.jpg
    A bit far, and this is the less roany side, but he's ticked all over his rump and barrell with extra ticking around the stifle

    http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...lamourShot.jpg
    This is the more ticked side

    http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...rJuly12007.jpg
    The ticking is easier to see in this picture, it was sunnier out

    I also think any kind of light ticking shows up more on bay/dark base.
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    I would vote Rabicano as well. Have you seen the photo of the Andy stallion Comico? He is Rabicano and is very roaned out over the belly, with some over the neck, shoulders, and butt. He is NOT grey.



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    Agreed on the rabicano. I also think that there may be a bit of sabino ticking in there as well.
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    No insight on the filly's color, but the picture of the two of you together is adorable.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurieB View Post
    No insight on the filly's color, but the picture of the two of you together is adorable.
    Agreed.

    But damn! Here it's maybe 95 degrees with 100% humidity, and you're wearing a jacket and GLOVES in July. Can you hear the envy in my post.
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