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    Default SHADBELLY vs BLACK COAT

    For Childrens Classic at AA show is a shadbelly the only way to go or can you wear a black jacket? Some girls are now wearing white breeches in the Hunter Classics, is this a "new thing"?



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    I hope to godapus that they are wearing the whites because they have a jumper classic and don't have time to change. If not, their trainer should be shot.

    A classic navy coat is acceptable in a hunter classic (indeed, preferred by many of the traditionalists who hate to see someone wearing a shad when they are either young or jumping 3' or under).

    Since black is becoming the new blue, I think it would be totally appropriate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExJumper View Post
    I hope to godapus that they are wearing the whites because they have a jumper classic and don't have time to change. If not, their trainer should be shot.!
    YES!

    For a freakin Children's Hunter Classic, you should be wearing a Navy/Dark Jacket, tan breeches, and a white shirt. If you HAVE a shad, and its a suitably large show, and you don't mind the Shad-Nazis comments....then rock it



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    Thanks, I am so glad the mom who told me "all the girls are wearing white breeches this year" is dead wrong. I have a hard enough time with the tan ones fighting off dirt. In ponies all the girls wore a shadbelly for classics and since that has been outgrown I don't want to replace it until next year for Juniors. Thanks!!



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    I don't think you have to go with the whites. However, when I was doing the A circuit as a child, whites with a shad and tall boots was the norm for all levels above short stirrup. Even so, it was acceptable for a younger on a small to still be in garters and paddock boots. You don't have to marry the fad of the day if you don't wanna!



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    I think it really depends on the show whether or not a shadbelly should be worn in a children's or A/A hunter classic, because there are alot of variations between AA rated shows. For shows like Upperville and WIHS finals I think a shadbelly is absolutely necessary. I think the prize list even says "formal attire required." For other AA shows that are more run of the mill I think you have your choice...I usually wear mine because I paid a ton for it, and want to get my moneys worth ...I don't see anything wrong with wearing it in a classic if you have it, and I don't see why people care whether people wear them or not, it is not like people are doing their regular hunter round in them, IMO ...after all being able to dress up a bit more formal, is part of the fun in competing in a classic!



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    Quote Originally Posted by TaffyTowne View Post
    I think it really depends on the show whether or not a shadbelly should be worn in a children's or A/A hunter classic, because there are alot of variations between AA rated shows. For shows like Upperville and WIHS finals I think a shadbelly is absolutely necessary. I think the prize list even says "formal attire required." For other AA shows that are more run of the mill I think you have your choice...I usually wear mine because I paid a ton for it, and want to get my moneys worth ...I don't see anything wrong with wearing it in a classic if you have it, and I don't see why people care whether people wear them or not, it is not like people are doing their regular hunter round in them, IMO ...after all being able to dress up a bit more formal, is part of the fun in competing in a classic!
    Even at smaller A show it says "formal attire required." A shad isn't necessary for formal attire.

    Having said that, I have a shad, I love it, and I wear it at every opportunity! Over 3' fences, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExJumper View Post
    Even at smaller A show it says "formal attire required." A shad isn't necessary for formal attire.

    Having said that, I have a shad, I love it, and I wear it at every opportunity! Over 3' fences, too!
    What do they mean by formal attire then? How do they want it to be different from what you would normally wear? I am just curious



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    Formal attire: JUMPERS: Scarlet, dark blue, dark green or black coat; white shirt with white tie, white choker or white stock; white, fawn, or canary breeches, protective headgear See GR 318, black or brown boots. No exceptions.

    c) Formal attire: Riders are required to wear scarlet or dark coats; white
    shirts with white stock; white, buff or canary breeches and hunting
    cap, derby, hunting silk hat, or protective headgear. See GR 318.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TaffyTowne View Post
    What do they mean by formal attire then? How do they want it to be different from what you would normally wear? I am just curious
    Quote Originally Posted by Pirateer View Post
    Hunter Classic - Formal Attire
    • Black hard hat, top hat or derby Hair up under hat in hairnet
    • White shirt or (Ratcatcher) (White choker) or stock tie
    • Breeches: Beige, White or Canary with Belt
    • Hunt coat: A dark, conservative color or Shadbelly - Scarlet if member of Rec. Hunt (with colors on collar)
    (Canary vest with shadbelly)
    • Boots: Black
    • Spurs
    Like Pirateer posted. In reality, it simply means that if you dress like you would for an eq class (navy coat, white shirt) you are formally attired. No light jackets, no bold shirts.

    Probably has something to do with back in the days when you old people used to wear those madras jackets They had to make sure you weren't wearing THAT insanity in a nice respectable hunter classic!!

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    I'm not a believer in the shad for a children's hunter classics, seeing as that they're children and children do not traditionally wear tails. I'm aware that it's done all the time, but it's still gauche.

    Were it my kid, particularly if she did not already have a shad, she would be in a dark coat, a white shirt, beige breeches, and boots if she was old enough to wear a bra or was mounted on a horse. She would absolutely not be wearing white breeches in the hunters, either.

    However, when I was doing the A circuit as a child, whites with a shad and tall boots was the norm for all levels above short stirrup. Even so, it was acceptable for a younger on a small to still be in garters and paddock boots.
    Um, where did you grow up? No one around here wears whites and a shad, certainly not for levels just above short stirrup.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TaffyTowne View Post
    What do they mean by formal attire then? How do they want it to be different from what you would normally wear? I am just curious
    Ripped from the latest revision of the Rulebook:

    HU 127
    1. Formal Attire. Riders are required to wear scarlet or dark coats; white shirts with whitestock; white, buff or canary breeches and protective headgear. See GR801. All Hunter andHunt Seat Equitation riders must wear protective headgear while jumping in accordancewith General Rules, GR801.2. In classes restricted to junior exhibitors protective headgearmust be worn in accordance with GR801. Members of the Armed Services or the Policemay wear the Service Dress Uniform.

    ]Not a reference to a Shad in sight.
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    holy cow, NO! they are likely just showing in a jumper classic right before or after, and do not have time to change. otherwise, they/their trainer needs some updating!!
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