DA --- I'll work on the photos and add them as I find them. We have had a bundle though over the years.
Maybe mom will jump in and give insight into when you 'know' but with all the new foals each year we decide who for sale at which price, whether they are a keep/start/show/sell or a keep/start/show/breed or a keep/start/breed/sell offspring until s/he produces a suitable replacement, etc...but we are a breeding, training and competition barn, not exactly like the average rider/trainer combo.
We usually know within 1-15 days who's a keeper for the A(ssume for sale) list, the B(reeding) list and the C(U in the show ring) list FWIW. We can't keep everyone from every year, so if something is for sale, it is not because it is lesser quality (there can be a sibling that is being kept already for instance) or one of them has to find a new person to campaign them beyond what our resources are.
Dad bought mom a weanling as a wedding present (full TB). She campaigned him through GP and all the big shows (before there were CDIs) for ages. They picked him because he went around the pasture doing clean one tempi changes. If a youngster is reluctant to clean up their leads out in the field...well, it never gets easier with a rider 'interfering' with their instincts & balance. I got to show the YR tests on him when I was 12 (HC of course). He taught me counting changes, piaffe & passage... Loved that horse!
For starters on the youngster - FEI horse
Again and Again, 1978 (Abundance x Nobody Much xx), homebred, won Insilco Awards, and all sorts of stuff. Genius with huge gaits...fwiw, got marked down constantly for having 'too much movement'.
There are some photos of him being backed in an old album - I was just digging through it for photos of a sold horse from 1977. I'll scan any that I can find and see if there are baby conformation shots too. Just remember, back then you paid for film & processing.
3 Years w/ 30 days under saddle winning the Colts & Geldings at DAD
5 years at Raleigh
6 years at DAD 3rd level
7 or 8 years at Raleigh I-1
Conformation as a 6 year old at DAD breed show
Beyond that, Adamant, Aurora, Able Spirit, Alacazam, Atreo, Artesian, Appartition, Able and Ready, Smart, Double Bounce...the list is pretty long of the ones that I knew and got to ride. I'll dig through the albums, see who I can find photos of as babies/youngsters and then most of the competition photos are already on line. The You Tube account has some footage of some of the horses as well...Able Spirit was The Most Photographed Horse on the Farm, so there are lots of her with me & Emily riding.
This video is another colt at 11 days. Dressage Royal x Again & Again (dam's full brother was HOY multiple times at the FEI level at the big CDIs from age 7-18). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr7Xs_ZyIfE
He was piaffing at 4 days. (photo)
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I'll stop with those 2...don't want to cross the advertising line.
The You Tube account also has a ton of videos from this winter in the indoor with the 2006's & 2007's trotting and cantering around. You guys can pick out who does clean changes on a close count and who has the 'big ring' trots. Just look for the ones added in January/February 2009.
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I dug around and found some older photos of Able Spirit (Abundance x Today I'm Trying xx) - http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=302690
Conformation shots are from DAD in the early 80's (Reserve Champion Mare) - '82 or '83 I think. The first might be Hunter Devon...but the second is DAD.
6 years old
9 years old
16 years old
And this is what happens sometimes when the genetic roulette wheel spins a bit off kilter...
You don't always get a perfect specimen - however, if you work hard enough, long enough with a good mind, lots of conformation flaws can be overcome...
And I really do have to get the camera out and get new shots of his piaffe. I am humbled by this guy...he really isn't 'built' to work in that way but I ask and he gives it his all. His gaits are rather small and he is an imp but he really does knuckle down and try! each and every day...
ETA - This is the 'real' Tasker FWIW. And one teensy detail I was forgetting to add in the first paragraph - along with having the discipline & determination to work the horse enough to achieve your goals, the horse has to be sound and stay sound. That is an absolute...
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Reason: some details
This is Wally. When I met him, it was love at first stride...no other way to put it. He is the light of each of my days and I am honored to have him in my life even as he is getting older and we don't show anymore. Every day is a gift with my big guy. He has a boatload of HOY awards and high scores but his biggest achievement is having given me lots of little Wally clones.
Aside from my infatuation, he did learn all his counting changes to 2's in 2 weeks (8 rides) and was showing PSG at 8.
I have no idea...photo came w/ the horse!
The very first canter! He was just a few weeks shy of his 15th b-day.
1 month later, schooling at home
How can you not love this face???
I'm really surprised that no one else is commenting on this thread...
In any case, here is one of my upcoming prospects - http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=303262 He is a typical Weltmeyer with big gaits and a bit of toughness thrown in there - but I love this guy! You will also notice the familiar names of Able Spirit & Abundance. The big black horse a few posts back is also out of a half sister of Able Spirit's...so everything is 'family' around here (or so it seems).
He's got his first entries in for the FEI 5 year olds and it really will just be a stepping stone for us to get to the Developing Young Horse PSG.
Nice! What is Sir Rocco's breeding? And please post Donna Novella's pics!
Sir Rocco is by Sandro Bedo (Sandro Hit/Tin Rocco). The dam is SPS Florestine (Florestan/Donnerhall). SPS Florestine is the full sister to Iron Springs GP stallion Florianus. This breeding combination produced 3 full siblings , the stallion Florianus, Florestine and one other sister (who is now a broodmare but competed up to M level in Germany). The maternal grand dam is also exceptional - St.Pr.St. Die Dame. With a foal at foot, she still won many tests for young riding horses and went on to win several elementary level tests for jumpers. Her full sister, St.Pr.St. Dornröschen, took third place at the Bundeschampionat in Warendorf and was a top priced mare at the Elite Auction in Münster.The Warendorf State Stud stallion, Dottore,
is a full brother of St.Pr.St. Die Dame. This dam line with Hanoverian origins also produced the licensed stallions Dalheim (private stallion in Rhineland),
Doll (private stallion in Bawue),
Falkenstern I (private stallion in Hanover),
Falkenstern II (State Stud Celle) and
Gotthardsen (State Stud Celle).
A great example of a super dam line!
Sir Rocco went to the Westfalen licensing in November 2007 but was not licensed. I bought him 6 months later -May 2008 and imported him then.
I just bought his 3yo 3/4ths brother - Sir Velo last month. He is still in Germany until the end of the year I think.