[Trakehner]

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/283205.html

The mans Jack Russel terrier puppy is stolen by hunt sabs (anti-fox hunting saboteures...yeah, I know-spelling)...then, he comes across a horse owner trying to take his injured horse to the vets. Two idiot animal rights/anti-hunting sows are blocking the road to show their displeasure at someone enjoying their life. Up he rides, and tries to reason with these women..no good. He tries to grab her keys to move her car...she is "slightly bruised" due to her stupidity and blocking a hurt horse going to be treated.

So, she and her fellow idiot file false charges, he goes to jail for 4 months, is found innocent of "witness nobbling" yet still has to pay hundreds of pounds due to daring to annoy a hunt sab.

Get ready here if these idiots get their ways here...it'll be special.

[SmokenMirrors]

I don't understand why the other person must pay if it was the idiot who got in their way to begin with. Did it not matter that the other person was taking a sick horse to the vet????

[cloudyandcallie]

sow is a derogatory term for women. It's insulting and meant to be so when used.
Peaceful protest is guaranteed by the constitution, which btw comes from our English roots. Just as animal rights WOMEN can protest, so can the KKK here.
Grabbing keys from someone and touching them can be a misdemeanor here, don't know what it is in GB.

[JSwan]

Grabbing keys from someone and touching them can be a misdemeanor here, don't know what it is in GB.

Guess what another hunt sab was charged with. Murder.

He decapitated someone when interfering in a lawful hunt.

There is peaceful protest - and there is interference, stalking, and harassing.

I'm sorry but if someone prevented me from taking care of my animals, including blocking my path when I was trying to seek emergency vet care...... I'd rip their arm off and beat them to death with it.

Peaceful protest? Fine. Harassing? Stalking? Interfering? Unacceptable.

[MistyBlue]

Have to agree...an AR female who blocks me from getting my horse to a vet morphs from woman to sow...and that would be my polite version. If the same sow/other bad word lied and got me jail time for something I didn't even do trying to get my animal to a vet...I just might end up back in jail for beating that sow with JSwan's rooster Chucky.
I would've 'nobbled" the heck out of this person.

Let's face it...Animal RIGHTS are usually filled with rabid unhinged emotionally challenged moronic humans.
They blow stuff up, injure and even murder other humans, do a lot more harm than good to the animals themselves and many times to most of the time have gotten their dogma and information by believing lies themselves. They're not very bright, and many times dangerous, and many times lie to get their way to punish people doing nothing wrong.

[JSwan]

For folks that may not be aware - while the UK and the US have much in common.... when it comes to property rights we're very different.

In our infancy we toyed with, but ultimately rejected England's law and concept of how property is held; including the concept that wildlife belonged to the property owner - not the public.

England has a long history of conflict regarding property rights, and since hunting (any type of hunting) requires access to open space it was a natural activity for property rights groups to hang their hat on.

There is a great deal of resentment, hatred, and bitterness. Class hatred, overtones of socialism, the Right to Roam acts, tragedy of the commons..... these and more are all ingredients in a very long recipe - and it's been stewing for generations. Animal rights groups are a relatively recent addition.

In the US states have been compelled to pass laws - even constitutional amendments - protected the right to farm and hunt. Making hunter harassment a crime. (not protest - but harassment).

We've had to do that because there ARE a lot of really crazy people out there that think the ends justifies the means. And if a few people or animals get hurt or killed in the process - that's ok. As long as it's for "the cause".


That is pretty frightening. It's frightening if any activity is targeted in such a manner.. .but I find it particularly heinous when a professed animal lover allows an animal to be injured or killed, or to suffer... for "the cause".

[Bluey]

Have to agree...an AR female who blocks me from getting my horse to a vet morphs from woman to sow...and that would be my polite version. If the same sow/other bad word lied and got me jail time for something I didn't even do trying to get my animal to a vet...I just might end up back in jail for beating that sow with JSwan's rooster Chucky.
I would've 'nobbled" the heck out of this person.

Let's face it...Animal RIGHTS are usually filled with rabid unhinged emotionally challenged moronic humans.
They blow stuff up, injure and even murder other humans, do a lot more harm than good to the animals themselves and many times to most of the time have gotten their dogma and information by believing lies themselves. They're not very bright, and many times dangerous, and many times lie to get their way to punish people doing nothing wrong.

Amen.
They tend to bring the rabid and unhinged out on me too.

[Kenike]

Cloudy, I realize you're a lawyer, but you also have to realize that a peaceable protest is only legal if you have obtained the proper permits. Otherwise it is considered harassment and is punishable by law.

[Trevelyan96]

What boggles my mind is how people who are supposedly 'sympathetic, loving, and caring' can make the jump to 'violence is acceptable for the cause.'.

Truly, our society has become unhinged by activists who think that 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' is only applicable under circumstances that they deem 'acceptable'.

Its OK for the music, game, and entertainment industry to promote rapacious violence in the name of 'entertainment' but riding a horse is 'slavery'.

Gimme a break.

[Trakehner]

sow is a derogatory term for women. It's insulting and meant to be so when used.
Peaceful protest is guaranteed by the constitution, which btw comes from our English roots. Just as animal rights WOMEN can protest, so can the KKK here.
Grabbing keys from someone and touching them can be a misdemeanor here, don't know what it is in GB.

Sow was meant to be derogatory...the woman (women) deserved that epithet (and much worse), they earned it. She wasn't protesting, she was blocking a narrow road to show her displeasure and was preventing a horse owner from taking his wounded horse to the veterinary surgeon. What part of this action do you see as guaranteed behaviour?

Then the silly sow lied and a man was put in jail for 4 months for daring to come to the aid of an injured horse. Fair?

"Animal rights WOMEN..." Hmmm, why so upset that a woman thug/hunt sab was treated the way she earned? Why not the upset of the lack of justice for a MALE trying to protect and help an injured horse from these psycho sows self-absorbed narcisism?.

[Equibrit]

The whole thing happened because Otis is Bryan Ferry's (Roxy Music) son and the loonie folks got ink by getting him arrested.

[Quest52]

Trak... its so nice to hear from someone who was there to tell us about what really happened and who lied to who and what exactly happened!!!

What would us sows do without your morality???

[MistyBlue]

Quest...the judge with the facts was the one who determined who lied about what. It wasn't Trak who did that, it was a judge who released the poor man incarcerated for 4 months over a lie told by another Animal Rights person...an Animal Rights person who was stopping a horse owner from taking his injured horse to the vets for care.
So...the Animal Rights folks yet again prove that they're ridiculous. Can't help a hurt horse, they'll stop you. Try to get past them, they'll lie, get you arrested and get you 4 months in prison. And only care about showing up to protest because the horse belongs to someone famous so the media will be there for the attention they crave above everything else.
But seriously, bash Trak for something he had nothing to do with. As an animal rights volunteer it's not surprising.

[TryonRealtor]

Well. before one decides to canonize poor Mr. Ferry, perhaps one might want to review his other arrests? (Just sayin.')

[MistyBlue]

Regardless of his previous arrest record, if he was arrested this particular time based on a lie then that's still not right.

Even if he spends his free time beating up old ladies with kittens...he shouldn't have been in jail for someone else's lying agenda. It might not make him a saint, but it also certainly doesn't excuse the Animal Rights person from lying about the situation either. That's kind of like children saying, "But everyone else was doing it!"

I don't know UK law, what will happen to the person who lied causing the jail sentence for someone else? And why isn't that person in trouble for blocking the truck trying to get a horse to the vet?

[twobays]

Other than in the OP's post, where does it say that these women were lying about the incident?

[tangledweb]

Well. before one decides to canonize poor Mr. Ferry, perhaps one might want to review his other arrests? (Just sayin.')

Wikipedia shows a few protest related arrests (putting up posters, yelling at politicians) and a DUI. Do you find those particularly sinister?

[MistyBlue]

In related articles about the same issue:

A judge has officially cleared Otis Ferry of charges of perverting the course of justice, but the 26-year-old master and huntsman of the South Shropshire still faces trial for robbery and assault.


H&H reported last month that the two "witness nobbling" charges, which put Mr Ferry behind bars for four months, were to be discontinued (news, 12 March).
And on 1 May Judge Martin Picton found Mr Ferry not guilty of both charges.

Mr Ferry, of Eaton Mascott, saw a Subaru car belonging to hunt follower John Deutsch being held up by Ms Ghalmi and another "monitor" Susan Grima. Mr Deutsch was trying to drive an injured horse for veterinary attention.

Mr Ferry rode to help Mr Deutch and there was a tussle in which Ms Ghalmi received "slight bruising" to her upper arm as he tried to tug her car keys from her grasp.

Mr Cox added that Mr Ferry is "often the subject of attention from those people who disagree with hunting on principle".
Mr Ferry spent four months in jail on remand after he was accused of "nobbling" a witness against him in this case. He was exonerated on 1 May.

So there's the "assault and robbery."
Slight bruise and trying to take the keys to move the car so the man could get his horse to a vet. Later on the same accuser claimed Ferry also stole her camera.
Typical animal rights crap.

[Moesha]

So many so called activists are so rabid and blind by their own believed moral crusade they commit far worse infractions against other people and their liberties and rights.

Blocking a road when you know a horse is injured and needs to get medical attention? What kind of animal rights activist is that? Sadly the same who sabatoged jumps in the hunt field that killed and crippled many horses as well.

This has nothing to do with Fox Hunting....this is about groups who will stop at nothing to get what they want regardless of means and sadly we are seeing that more and more in the World...and here in the U.S....the loudest mess seems to get appeased to hush it up instead of being dealt with...

[Equibrit]

Just for grins ! What a dangerous criminal - now how about the criminal record of the loonies ?

Arrests, charges and verdicts


2002

3 August: Otis Ferry was arrested by armed police officers after approaching Prime Minister Tony Blair's constituency home in the middle of the night with pro-hunting posters. He admitted that he was intending to place posters on the walls of the building at Sedgefield, County Durham. He was challenged by two officers after passing through the security gates at 4am and arrested when he refused to give his personal details. [6]. He was not charged.

2004

15 September: Otis Ferry and seven other pro-hunting protesters illegally entered the House of Commons Chamber in protest at anti-hunting legislation. Labour Members of Parliament (MPs) Alun Michael, who was rural affairs minister at the time the anti-hunting law was put through and Kate Hoey, a former Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Home Office, each gave evidence at the subsequent trial. Alun Michael said: "I had no means of knowing where they came from or what they were intending. Violence in relation to hunting was very much in the public domain and in the minds of MPs. I was in fear when they first came in for the safety of everyone in the chamber. There was a lot going on and we were all afraid we were going to get hurt". Kate Hoey, a supporter of hunting, who earlier in the day had addressed protestors outside the Chamber said "I saw one protester being dragged out and pretty well being choked. At that stage I stood up and said something like, 'They are going out; just let them go.' It was clear they had made their protest and it seemed the more people piled in there to get them out the longer it was taking to get them out", adding that "the demonstrators had caused surprise rather than any feeling of threat or disorder". [7] After the worst breach of Commons security in living memory, armed police were placed at all entrances to the chamber — the first time MPs have had such a guard. [8] After a short adjournment, the House then went on to approve the Bill by a majority of 356 to 166. [9] All eight (Ferry, 22, Shrewsbury; Luke Tomlinson, 27, Gloucestershire; David Redvers, 34, Gloucestershire; Richard Wakeham, 36, York; Nicholas Wood, 41, Wiltshire; John Holiday, 37, Herefordshire; Robert Thame, 35, Berkshire and Andrew Elliot, 42, Herefordshire) [10] were convicted of offences under the Public Order Act 1986 and each fined £350 and given 18-month conditional discharges. [11]

2005

6 May: Ferry was arrested after he crossed a barrier at the National Portrait Gallery in London and shouted and confronted the Prime Minister before a plain-clothes policeman stepped in to block him. As he was led away he shouted: "I've had enough of this Government." Ferry was later released without charge. [12]
11 October: Arrested and subsequently charged with driving under the influence of alcohol in Cirencester, Gloucestershire, shortly after leaving The Rock nightclub in the town. [3]

2006

12 August: Ferry stood trial on the charges of driving while under the influence of alcohol brought against him in the previous October. He changed his plea to guilty halfway through the trial at Stroud magistrates court in Gloucestershire. His blood-alcohol level was 55 micrograms, 20 above the legal limit of 35.[13] Ferry admitted to drinking at least seven shots of vodka. He was not given a driving ban as the court accepted that he believed he had been drinking single shots. He was fined £500 and ordered to pay £364 costs. [3]

2007

21 November: After an incident with hunt protestors during a meeting of the Heythrop Hunt at Lower Swell, near Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, Ferry was arrested on suspicion of common assault and robbery, it having been alleged that he took a video camera from two hunt monitors who were trying to film him. The women said that were investigating possible breaches of the hunting ban, which outlaws hunting with dogs and gathering video evidence. [14] [15]
27 November: He was charged with two counts of criminal damage after he snatched the ignition keys from the cars of photographers pursuing his brother Isaac Ferry and his brother's actress friend Sienna Miller outside a nightclub after a BAFTA after-show party.[16] He was acquitted. [17]

2008

7 May: Having been charged with robbery and common assault following his arrest on 21 November 2007, he appeared at Cheltenham Magistrates' Court. The case was adjourned. [18]
18 September: Ferry was arrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice in connection with the common assault charge. Although he was initially granted bail, he was subsequently remanded in custody.[19] [20]
14 November: Ferry's girlfriend Francesca Nimmo and Countryside Alliance official and former regional director Adrian Simpson were arrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice in connection with Ferry's case, and were granted bail.[21]

2009

15 January: With the trial being delayed to the Summer, Ferry was freed on bail conditions of £25,000 surety and that he stay out of his home county of Shropshire, live with his mother in Kensington, and report twice a week to police.[22]
9 March: At a hearing at Gloucester Crown Court, the Crown Prosecution Service indicated that it was unlikely to proceed with the charges of perverting the course of justice. The matter was adjourned to a date to be set and Ferry remained on bail. Judge Martin Picton, described as "furious" by the Times[23] criticised prosecutor Stephen Dent, saying "At some point I shall want rather more than this by way of explanation because I remanded Mr Ferry in custody for over four months on the basis that there was a perverting the course of justice charge being pursued. There were vigorous objections to bail raised on the grounds of that." Judge Picton also ordered prosecution lawyer Kerry Barker to appear before him to give a full explanation.[23]
30 April: At another hearing at Gloucester Crown Court, Ferry was formally acquitted of the charges of perverting the course of justice. The case was adjourned until September when he will face trial on the assault charges [22]