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    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but isn't a drop nose-band OK to use in the hunters? If your horse does it really bad, but is an exceptional hunter in other respects, why not use one? Sure it's not the prettiest thing on the planet, but to my knowledge, it is acceptable in the hunter ring and certainly better than a gaping mouth.
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    Drop noseband and anything other than a plain cavesson are considered unconventional tack and can (and probably will) be penalized.



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    Mouth is open but there's NO RESISTANCE??? This horse just goes around totally pleasantly with the mouth open? I have to think there's a palate/bit/tooth/bridle reason why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Come Shine View Post
    Does anyone have the books by Anna Jane White-Mullin or Randy Roy on judging hunters? What does it say in them?
    Randy HATES a gappy mouth. I went to a clinic with him and it was mentioned a few times there as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jlphilli View Post
    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but isn't a drop nose-band OK to use in the hunters? If your horse does it really bad, but is an exceptional hunter in other respects, why not use one? Sure it's not the prettiest thing on the planet, but to my knowledge, it is acceptable in the hunter ring and certainly better than a gaping mouth.
    Drop and flash type stuff are verboten in the Canadian hunter ring, and I cannot imagine the US rules are different. There are hunter crank nosebands I have heard about, might be worth looking into that if there is nothing else at work with the mouth and it's just a bad habit.



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    My mare flaps her bottom lip, has anyone seen this ever?



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    An open mouth should definitely be penalized in the hunters. I would think flapping lip would be too but to a lesser degree. Hunters is all about asthetics when push comes to shove and in the competitive hunter classes even little things matter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhorne89 View Post
    My mare flaps her bottom lip, has anyone seen this ever?
    We had a wonderful horse who did that sometimes. We joked that he was talking to himself as he went around the ring.

    He was Horse of the Year in our zone several times over, so I don't think anyone held that lip thing against him too much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by littlecreek View Post
    Drop and flash type stuff are verboten in the Canadian hunter ring, and I cannot imagine the US rules are different. There are hunter crank nosebands I have heard about, might be worth looking into that if there is nothing else at work with the mouth and it's just a bad habit.
    Yeah, I knew a flash was. I felt like yeaaaaars ago I saw several drop nose-bands in the hunters and they were never penalized; I can't say that I've seen anyone with one recently, so makes sense. Oh well!
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    In competitive company, it will be a deal breaker. If you are talking about A shows in the 2'6 hunters where other major mistakes are not uncommon, you could stand a chance if you put in a great trip and capitalize on the mistakes of others. However, A rated 3'+ hunters are often very high quality horses and mistakes are exceptions rather than the norm, so it really does come down to style since usually at least 8 entries find all their spots, get their changes, etc. In this company, it will certainly matter because the judging comes down to the minutae.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhorne89 View Post
    My mare flaps her bottom lip, has anyone seen this ever?
    My first horse did this whenever she was tense - under tack or not.

    My mare now has been nicknamed "mumbles" ...she moves her lips like she's mumbling to herself when she is relaxed. It's never hurt her in the ring, but I don't know if she's ever actually done it in the ring to think of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhorne89 View Post
    My mare flaps her bottom lip, has anyone seen this ever?
    My horse sticks his tongue out and then puts it back in. I find he does this the most when he's concentrating. Think of the young kid doing his homework and his tongue sticking out the side of his mouth. Yup. That's my boy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhorne89 View Post
    My mare flaps her bottom lip, has anyone seen this ever?
    I have known two horses that did this. Both seemed like very relaxed horses, but maybe it was their nervous habit? Kind of like a horse that overly chomps at the bit when they are anxious? Just a thought!
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    My daughters pony would flap his bottom lip when riding. It was because he was relaxed and only did it in the trot because it just naturally moved that way when he relaxed so much. He has very big lips lol. Have to watch hand feeding treats or his lips will swallow your hand. No teeth but all lip. Guess it depends on if it's a loose lip that bounces or if the horse is actually moving their lip on their own.
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