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  1. #1
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    Default The best dressage commentator ever - Robert

    WOW what a good job he did. He has done such a wonderful job so far. He manages to very polite yet informative.

    It was announced that Karin Offeild helped to sponsor him as commentator. Very, very good show for everyone.



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    I thought he did a good job as well. He was very tactful and informative.



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    I agree!

    He has a wonderfully calm voice too
    I know now, the place that I was trying to reach, was you, right here in front of me



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    Totally, he really added to the experience!



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    Default RD is a very qualified commentator, but

    Sorry to be a fun hater...I'd rather hear more of RD's professional analysis on the rides, than the behind-the-scenes stories he tells.

    He yakked almost entriely through Anky's GP ride, telling how he "actually contacted Anky and Sjef" during the "drama" a few weeks ago when it looked like she was not going to compete. He said that he urged her to come as it would be good for the sport. The after a lengthy pause, RD admitted that Anky and Sjef told him that they had already come to that conclusion. And there was the "note" that he received during the ride saying that Anky had been in the hospital just that morning.....and that to "come back on the world stage" on her "second string horse, just proves why this is a world class champion." All this (and more) during the ride !!!

    I have no complaint with RD's effusive praise of Anky, but if he could have saved it until after the ride, it would have been appreciated.

    And yes, if he starts it again, I know where the "mute" button is.
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    He needs to shut up during the freestyle so you can hear the music!!!



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    While I liked his commentary of the RIDES, I agree that his stories did get a little annoying. Seemed less behind-the-scenes (i.e. this horse has trouble with XYZ) and more name-dropping. JMO.



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    Am I the only one who found his "That is one happy Columbian" comment absolutely hilarious?
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    I agree with slick!! WooHoo!! and don't mind the small stuff..he did wonderful!! I loved his voice- the quick way of picking up on stuff- very, very good eye- spotted everything...and kind in his comments...I like a positive person!
    "the man mite be the head but the woman is the neck and the neck can turn the head any way she wants..." -smart greek woman



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    I found it annoying and distracting. I just personally prefer to listen to the MUSIC and watch the ride. Comments afterward are fine - or in a re-cap of the ride but I found myself saying SHUT UP to the screen.
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    "telling how he "actually contacted Anky and Sjef" "

    I'm sure people at that level actually do talk to each other, probably fairly frequently, in fact. They have business dealings, organizational dealings, EVEN, surprise surprise, friendships, acquaintances. It's a very small world at that level. I don't know why in the world Robert Dover WOULDN'T contact Anky and Sjeff. He's a part of that world.

    I liked it, and I ignore whatever chit chat isn't important to me. Hearing what someone who knows as much as Robert Dover has to say about the movements, and hearing it immediately, right on seeing the movements, I think is educational and good training, even for more experienced people, there are not too many people in the USA who have ridden internationally as much as Robert has, and love or hate his personality, there is a very big difference between his knowledge and experience, and most people's here.

    Too, there has to be a compromise between people in audience who are experienced and the majority of people, who have NO IDEA who these people are or what the judges are doing. THe 'human interest' stories most spectators adore, it makes them feel 'in the know' and they love that. Sure there are people who want less commentary, but most people are not knowledgeable and the only way to 'personalize' this sport and put it near and dear to their hearts is some chit chat, and robert and the people putting this thing on are well aware of that.

    The chit chat, i'm sure is part of robert who seems outgoing and talkative anyway, but i'll take the "happy columbian" and raise you two "did you see that little mistake in the rhythm in the extended trot, that'll cost (specific amount of points)", any day.

    I also REALLY like to hear where our riders see what the judge is scoring, and say, 'I expected that to be lower' or 'i expected that to be higher', I really want to hear where they are surprised. That alone, I think is worth it, hearing where an experienced rider and trainer is discordant with the judge that is sitting up there.
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    Robert did a marvelous job and has a Golden Eye. Also kuddos to our fellow COTH'er Karin Offield who made this all possible.

    A solution could be, that you can mute channels. Like I saw at Aachen last year, you could choose for English comments, German Comments, or No Comments.

    This would solve the above described problems. However please be HAPPY that the USA has made a start to broadcast equestrian sports on this large scale.

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    The guy working with Robert also did a great job. He asked smart questions. They were a good team
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgeback View Post
    The guy working with Robert also did a great job. He asked smart questions. They were a good team
    I thought the comments were a good balance of information and chit-chat, that was also very interesting and informative in it's own.

    The music could have been a little louder, so we could really hear what they were riding to.
    I could not, but that was not because they were talking here and there, that I appreciated also.
    I think they did a fabulous job, to be able to explain complex details so ANYONE, even those that don't know much, could follow what was happening and how it was scored and why.

    We forget that, even many that think they know, few really know the finer details of what is correct and what not and why and how that counts.
    I think it may have opened some eyes to see riding at that level and maybe also that it is not a walk in the park.

    I sadly come across many people that should know better, that dismiss much of dressage as "just riding around".
    Comentators like these hopefully put dressage in perspective for many that didn't know there is more to it.



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    We thought Robert did a VERY good job. And yes, thank you Karin Offield It was SOOOOO nice to have commentary from someone who actually "knows" Dressage!!!



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    Can't complain here at all... This allowed ME to see the show, otherwise I would have had to wait for my friends to come home from the event and hear all the chatter from them..

    I felt I had a ring side seat.. !!!

    Thanks to all that allowed me this privilege..



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    Thanks a million times to Karin Offield for making Robert's commentary OVER THE INTERNET possible. Thank you, thank you, thank you.



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    so could someone please explain to me the comment robert made about how what each rider did in the GP had an impact on how the judges would score them for the freestyle?

    also, he said something along the lines of Steffan is now very well placed to win the world equestrian games.....

    aren't the judges supposed to just judge what is in front of them?



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    I too thought he did a wonderful job. I especially appreciated his positivity. He did a great job of pointing out the flaws in a ride without seeming catty. He had many positive comments about each ride while still showing how good his eye was for the movements. I found myself thinking on a few occasions how good a clinician he must be and wondering if he is coming to town any time soon!



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    "the comment robert made about how what each rider did in the GP"

    Maybe it gives the judges more confidence in their observations, having seen the horses so recently. The GP class is then almost like a warmup for the FS.



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