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    Exclamation Oy, Oy, Oy. PSA!... Please lock up your meds!

    I don't care about your views on abortion. This is NOT a political statement. It is a warning for you to keep your meds, especially those meant to induce spontaneous abortion in mares, locked up securely. I posted this in light of the previous thread about a barn that was broken into with nothing we would normally consider "of value" being taken.

    I have posted the most pertinent excerpts to Horses but here's the whole article if you desire to read it.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=92186

    Some teens in rural America are now self-inducing abortions with chemicals intended to abort livestock, reports one of the nation's oldest and most influential pro-life organizations.

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    The grisly situation was first exposed through the efforts of Anna Anderson, head of the Care Net Pregnancy Center in Green County, Wis., who reported the trend on the Stephenson County Right to Life website of Freeport, Ill.

    Anderson reported getting numerous calls and visits to her pregnancy care center from teens who either had taken the drugs or were worried about friends who had taken them.

    Cases have been documented in at least three rural Wisconsin counties, she said.

    The drugs, kept on farms for management of livestock under the names Prostaglandins, Cystorelin, Factrel, Gonadorelin or Lutalyse, were being ingested orally in large quantities, even though animals are treated by injection, the alert said.

    Besides resulting in the death of the unborn baby, other complications that could ensue include infections, blood loss and even death.

    "If I hadn't known the woman who reported this, I wouldn't have believed it," Brown said.

    But both Wisconsin and national veterinary associations have acknowledged the problem.

    According to the American Animal Hospital Association warning, its state officials in Wisconsin "contacted the district school nurse, who verified that the district has received reports of this abuse."

    "This situation underscores the need for veterinarians to remain vigilant about storing, distributing, prescribing and using veterinary products that can pose human health risks," the advisory said.

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    Anderson's warning reported she knew the practice had been going on "at least since this past summer when a young 'hired' man in our area gave a girl a medication meant to (among other uses) induce abortions in cows and horses to cause her to abort their child."

    "This is a very deadly drug for fetuses," she continued. "According to a local veterinarian, pregnant women are not even supposed to handle the bottles in which it is stored unless they are wearing gloves. Needless to say this girl lost the baby. The drug consists of a high concentration of hormones so human ingestion of it is not poisonous to the girls but it is deadly to the developing fetus and has potentially deadly consequences for the girls.

    "The news of this young couple's success in aborting their baby has spread through the Monroe High School and possibly elsewhere, which has resulted in other pregnant girls obtaining and consuming this drug in order to abort their unborn babies," Anderson reported.

    "Some of the girls who are taking the drug are much further along in their pregnancies than the original girl. This is resulting in life-threatening complications for the pregnant girls when the drug successfully results in the placenta pulling away from the uterine wall; the baby being starved; the baby then dying; which results in spotting and uterine contractions followed by an abortion of the baby. In these more advanced pregnancies, these girls could potentially bleed to death or have a life-threatening systemic infection if the uterus is not completely emptied of the baby and other pregnancy tissues. In addition, one physician said that there could be clotting issues because of this drug."

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    "If this is going on at our high school, chances are that it is happening at other high schools as well – especially in rural agricultural areas. Unsuspecting parents and anyone else who might be in a position to help these girls and stop this deadly practice need to be aware of this 'drug abuse' among area teens," Anderson said.

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    So lock your meds up!
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    And provide multiple choices for young, pregnant women. Then they wouldn't need to steal the horse medications.



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    Default Wow-- that's some ambition!

    My momma was a SoCal girl and joked about a "weekend in Tijuana" as a cure for unwanted pregancy. She thought she was all clever, taking advantage of local resources.

    Teenagers with the same problem in rural states seem just as resourceful, no? Their strategy never would have occurred to me.



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    Other horsey drugs are also prime for kids/teens to sample and equally or more dangerous.
    Barns who are large, have a large number of lessons and young adults boarding and do not lock up their drugs are nuts, imo.
    For one, think lawsuits
    For two, if you have money to throw away on lawyers and lawsuits, think a kid critically ill or dead.

    Leaving it out on a counter- which everyone entering/leaving the tack room passes by- and saying 'we know how many ___ pills we have' when the bottle holds 1000 pills is just sticking your head in the sand, aka stupid, stupid, stupid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp View Post
    Teenagers with the same problem in rural states seem just as resourceful, no? Their strategy never would have occurred to me.
    Nor I. Five years ago, when my app mare was still alive, there was the potential for her to be in foal to a TWH stallion that escaped from the neighbor's. So my vet left me with the meds pre-drawn. At the time, I had no way of locking that syringe up. It never, ever occured to me that someone could come along and steal it for such nefarious and sad purposes.
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    There are a lot of veterinary drugs abused by people. Ketamine comes to mind- a hallucinatory drug.

    Very, very sad.



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    Good god, that is unbelievably stupid! How can they not know that veterinary medicine for such purpose is dangerous.

    I seriously don't want to know the answer to that.



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    There is also a street drug that has the slang name of "bute." A few years ago I was in a tack shop and a girl came in trying to buy "bute." Her car had DC plates and the driver and girl did not look horsey.

    You can put 2 and 2 together, they had the wrong "bute" Needless to say everyone in the tS was confused.
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    Years ago my vet mentioned that they'd had to take some extra safety precautions due to an increase of attacks/thefts over ketamine.

    Abortion drugs? Lordy. People are just insane.



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    Uhhhh.... I have to admit that never occurred to me. And our farm was robbed a few months ago. I never thought to look in my meds chest and fridge to make sure drugs were still there. Nor did I look in my medicine chest in the house.

    Clearly I need to get out more. I'm sorry that any young girl believes that this is a safe choice.

    Thanks for posting that, ChocoMare. I don't have any of these drugs but I do have others and I would hate for them to fall into the wrong hands.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dispatcher View Post
    Good god, that is unbelievably stupid! How can they not know that veterinary medicine for such purpose is dangerous.

    I seriously don't want to know the answer to that.
    Desperation makes people do reckless and stupid things. It's very sad.



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    This is a nationwide problem, aside from vet hospitals being robbed, parents are now strongly urged to lock up their prescription meds from the kids, who are stealing them and using them for purposes for which they are not intended. All my meds are locked up and I dont even have any kids. I also dont want to be responsible for some stupid childs desperation should they be looking for alternative meds for any issue. I am also not fond of lawsuits.



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    What a scary world this is.
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    that's so sad. more options need to be available to scared, desperate, pregnant teenage girls.
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    Our society needs to start meeting the needs of today's teens--it was a lot different than from when I grew up and society needs to realize that. We don't do a very good job at "getting the word out" either to unwed teenage mothers--they still don't realize in many states they can surrender a baby to "safe havens" if they feel they can't keep it and not be taken to task (get in legal trouble). They don't need to leave their baby on doorsteps anymore in most places.
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    Just cleaning out the gene pool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherry View Post
    Our society needs to start meeting the needs of today's teens--it was a lot different than from when I grew up and society needs to realize that. We don't do a very good job at "getting the word out" either to unwed teenage mothers--they still don't realize in many states they can surrender a baby to "safe havens" if they feel they can't keep it and not be taken to task (get in legal trouble). They don't need to leave their baby on doorsteps anymore in most places.
    If they do not know it is their own doing. These facts and the information about planned parenthood and their parent's not having to know is VERY available. Heck, there are even TV commercials about all this stuff now, on the non-cable stations even (so the poor people like me, who do not have cable can see them). And all schools cover such things in health class and the like.



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    These girls are not stupid. They are scared, and desperate. In my very progressive state, a first term abortion still costs around $400-$500. That is A LOT OF MONEY for a teenager who's still living with her parents...she might not even have a job/accessible money in a bank account and would have no way of coming up with hundreds of dollars. Plus, most teens will be too scared/too oblivious to even notice a missed period or two...and once you get into the second trimester, an abortion can cost upwards of $1000. How is a teenager going to afford that!?

    And yes, there are other options, and they should have been protected, etc. But these girls aren't stupid...they're just scared. And hey, it worked for her best friend's cousin's sister's friend....so why not her?

    And trub, you live in a very progressive state. New England as a whole is excellent about getting info out to teens. HOWEVER, this is not true for all states....some states don't even teach much besides abstinence!

    Back on topic: As a college-aged teen, I can tell you right now that you cannot even imagine the sorts of drugs that your children are doing. Lock up your prescriptions...it's often the kids you don't suspect that are the ones who are most hardcore into drugs. Most of the kids at the top of my class, who got into excellent colleges, can't even remember most of their weekends cause they just blacked out after cocktails of drugs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GoForAGallop View Post
    These girls are not stupid. They are scared, and desperate. In my very progressive state, a first term abortion still costs around $400-$500. That is A LOT OF MONEY for a teenager who's still living with her parents...
    If you can not afford the abortion then maybe you should not be doing what causes you to need one!


    If the kids know enough to go steal some horse drug and how to go about stealing some horse drug and how to go about using some horse drug then it seems like they should have enough resources (brain matter and ability) to find a way to get this done legally.



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    Quote Originally Posted by trubandloki View Post
    If you can not afford the abortion then maybe you should not be doing what causes you to need one!

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    Sure, but when has that reasoning ever stopped kids from having sex? Never.



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