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    Default USEA did something sensible concerning the AEC qualifications

    Aw man, I wish they had done this since the AEC's started!

    In a nutshell, to qualify for AEC's, you had to get two 1st-5th for BN or 2 1st or 2nd Novice and up. Anyway, that was always a pain if you an AA and were stuck in an open division where 1st and 2nd were won by pro's and an AA won third, the AA didn't get a qualifying score for AEC's. (happened to me a few times!) Now the USEA, for AEC qualifications only and it doesn't change the real class results, will pull Pros' results out of open divisions and the highest ranked AA's will get 1st and 2nd if they already haven't won.

    I really hope to make it to AEC's for the excperience, but many times was 3rd or 4th by a fraction of a point behind Pros'. So I personally think this is fair when the classes are mixed.

    Good thinking USEA



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    Cool! What a neat idea for those of us who are lucky to make it to a small handful of shows a year and who usually show "Open". Still won't help me much--we're not threatening to steal anyone's primary-colored ribbons yet, but maybe this year!

    Will this affect how pros get their horses qualified?
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    Doesn't effect the Pro's at all. Just the Amateurs. I don't think it makes it easier to qualify, just equitable since USEA just doesn't offer AA only classes. It's on the USEA website if you want more info.



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    Cool, that means the young horse I bred and sold gets a qualifying ride for her 3rd of 18 finish from last weekend. I believe the 1st place finisher was a pro.
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    Damn, i wish i hadn't declared professional status this year



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    Does USEA automatically pull them out? Would we be notified? I know some of the pros but not all. If I see my name in 3/4 place how am I to know if 1/2 might be pros?



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    Answers here.
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    I'm sure I'm the lone dissenter as I bitched about it to the AR2 group. I still think it's the bell curve theory and don't want to be separated from the pros any more that we already are (literally and mentally).
    But again, I was the lone dissenter.



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    I think it's super - as an amateur in Area II, I'm often in open divisions, particularly at Preliminary. You can have quite a nice horse and a good go and still not be in the top 6, because you're behind Mara, Boyd, Allison, Philip, Kim, and Boyd again. I get the bell curve argument, but I do think it makes sense to try to be over inclusive wherever we can, particularly for the amateur divisions at AECs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaB View Post
    I'm sure I'm the lone dissenter as I bitched about it to the AR2 group. I still think it's the bell curve theory and don't want to be separated from the pros any more that we already are (literally and mentally).
    But again, I was the lone dissenter.
    it is only for the AEC's and the Amat leaderboard, give a fighting chance for those that are in areas that only offer open divisons a chance to qualify for the amat divison of the AEC's and have a more realistic leaderboard. JMHO
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    They do this at most/all of the recognized dressage shows, you might be in a class with 1/2 pros but they pin them separately, so there are 2 sets of ribbons for classes, plus if you are third as an amy, but 5th in general you get 2 ribbons, kinda cool!



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    Quote Originally Posted by GotSpots View Post
    because you're behind Mara, Boyd, Allison, Philip, Kim, and Boyd again.
    Too true! I don't show at Prelim, but I have seen these results at a lot of shows.



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    I still think it's the bell curve theory
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