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    A lot of Barrett's horses are sold to the KBs if they don't bring any bids. I know TBfriends has gotten quite a few from them from people who just went to buy the rejects after the sale and Tranquility Farm has too. They (TF) also go and ask for them to donate the in foals mares. Some do, some sell to the KB. If you really want this mare or want to see her safe get someone to bid on her for you or to follow her RIGHT from the sale ring if she doesn't meet reserve or gets no bids and make them an offer. The KBs generally (GENERALLY) don't pay more than $300-400 for them (and those are high if they think they might be able to flip them instead of ship them). If you have the money up front you might be able to get someone from a rescue who knows the players there to bid on her for you if she isn't going to a private buyer. And like someone said above you can try contacting the owner/agent and get her before the sale if they are selling out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imissvixen View Post
    You guys are enablers...
    I can say that VB is for sure !!!!! LOL xoxoxo u VB :-))
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    Okay, I will call the agent today. I think I am also going to try to track down her old trainer. She was at Golden Gate Fields. Maybe he will have some info. And I will check at Barretts about line of credit and other particulars.

    My friends and people who know me don't hang around the Racing board but if for some reason you are lurking, my husband will not need to know where this horse came from if by some chance she shows up in our lives.



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    Quote Originally Posted by imissvixen View Post
    Okay, I will call the agent today. I think I am also going to try to track down her old trainer. She was at Golden Gate Fields. Maybe he will have some info. And I will check at Barretts about line of credit and other particulars.

    My friends and people who know me don't hang around the Racing board but if for some reason you are lurking, my husband will not need to know where this horse came from if by some chance she shows up in our lives.
    I am wishing for a LOL icon with tears

    I love the statement about paying more attention when things get you excited/interested...I can just picture God breathing a sigh of relief as I become more fluid and pliable (the older & stiffer my physical self gets)!!!

    BTW I have a Dixie Brass broodie whose damsire is Relaunch (who is on the bottom of Miss Abby Kat's pedigree). She is an eye-candy mare who is a beautiful producer (AQHA circuit hunters w/previous owner, will have her first warmblood foal next month).



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    sometimes the universe just sends us little signs and we need to follow them. I know what you mean about feeling excited about something and needing to follow it through. good luck to you in getting this girl. so very brave of you to follow this through.



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    Some of you people need to get real. This is a sound, fit filly who is being sold as part of a dispersal. She won last out for a $12.5k tag and is being sold through one of the most exclusive auction houses in the country - she is NOT in danger of going to any kill buyer. In the racing business we sell at auction; it's just how we do things - not unlike art, antiques, etc.

    Imisvixen, I followed your previous thread about this mare and I do encourage you to get her if you really like her. I also encourage you to attend the sale live if you are serious about her. See her in person and make sure you like her (you can see her at the barns the day before her sale date). They'll bring her out and you can see how she is to handle, etc. You can't have a full PPE done, but you can have xrays taken or have a vet look at any xrays that might be in the repository. Vet clinics have tables set up near the pavilion to make arrangements. And, besides, a TB auction is a lot of fun - if you can, you should definitely go.

    Barrets has a $1k minimum bid on all horses. The owner may elect to put a reserve of their choosing on the horse and may or may not disclose that to potential buyers. The appropriate way to determine that is to simply ask the consignor if she is selling with reserve. If she sells beyond your price or if you are uncertain if she sold at all, it would be appropriate to follow her back to the consignors barn after she leaves the ring and politely inquire as to her status. If she is unsold, you may then make an offer. If she is sold, you might be able to connect with her new owners and let them know you're available for retirment, if/when needed.

    But, again - this is a filly being sold as a race horse who just won her last race. She will sell well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by imissvixen View Post
    I haven't done anything irrational lately. It may be that I am due.
    Good enough!

    I saw a horse at a yearling auction years ago, and have been totally obsessed ever since. Because... he whinnied at me and looked sad when I walked away from his stall. Seriously, I had to stalk the pedigreequery site until he was listed (he had no name at the time). Put him in my virtual stable immediately. But apparently he hasn't raced

    If he ever comes up for sale, I'm in big, big trouble.
    "smile a lot can let us ride happy,it is good thing"

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    Per SleepyFox:
    Some of you people need to get real. This is a sound, fit filly who is being sold as part of a dispersal. She won last out for a $12.5k tag and is being sold through one of the most exclusive auction houses in the country - she is NOT in danger of going to any kill buyer. In the racing business we sell at auction; it's just how we do things - not unlike art, antiques, etc.



    Maayybeee (start the old "Night Gallery" music here....and read in a Rod Serling-esque voice) Maybe she's not being drawn there for Miss Abby Kat at allllll....maayybeee Miss Abby Kat is just the lure, and the real purpose will be revealed...maybe when she gets there....maayybeee years later...Bom bom Baaaam!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyFox View Post
    Some of you people need to get real. This is a sound, fit filly who is being sold as part of a dispersal. She won last out for a $12.5k tag and is being sold through one of the most exclusive auction houses in the country - she is NOT in danger of going to any kill buyer. In the racing business we sell at auction; it's just how we do things - not unlike art, antiques, etc.

    Imisvixen, I followed your previous thread about this mare and I do encourage you to get her if you really like her. I also encourage you to attend the sale live if you are serious about her. See her in person and make sure you like her (you can see her at the barns the day before her sale date). They'll bring her out and you can see how she is to handle, etc. You can't have a full PPE done, but you can have xrays taken or have a vet look at any xrays that might be in the repository. Vet clinics have tables set up near the pavilion to make arrangements. And, besides, a TB auction is a lot of fun - if you can, you should definitely go.

    Barrets has a $1k minimum bid on all horses. The owner may elect to put a reserve of their choosing on the horse and may or may not disclose that to potential buyers. The appropriate way to determine that is to simply ask the consignor if she is selling with reserve. If she sells beyond your price or if you are uncertain if she sold at all, it would be appropriate to follow her back to the consignors barn after she leaves the ring and politely inquire as to her status. If she is unsold, you may then make an offer. If she is sold, you might be able to connect with her new owners and let them know you're available for retirment, if/when needed.

    But, again - this is a filly being sold as a race horse who just won her last race. She will sell well.
    Amen! SleepyFox said it much more tactfully and eloquently than I could have hoped to do.
    Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO



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    hey now, only two people on this whole thread are being alarmist

    The rest of us just like to enable irrationality.

    "smile a lot can let us ride happy,it is good thing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffeinated View Post
    hey now, only two people on this whole thread are being alarmist

    The rest of us just like to enable irrationality.


    I'm all for enabling irrationality.

    Go get her, imissvixen.
    Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO



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    Thanks for the dose of reality. I am thinking about going to the sale. My family and kid are in CA and Southwest has tickets for $91 each way. What the hell.

    If any COTHers are going to be there, let me know.



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    barretts auction is a blast!! been there a few times years ago and always find something i want to take home. the energy is great and people watching, so cal celebs and all......
    i went with hunter trainers to find prospects and its an education of conformation following function.
    have a great time, wish i could go too!



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    We merged your two threads about this girl into one, so it's easier to follow your story with her. You can edit the thread title at any time (using the advanced edit feature) if you want to draw attention to a new development.

    Good luck if you decide to hit the auction!
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    Hey now its a race stable dispersol..so there are several things in play.
    Partners disolving? And some may well buy back a few horses or the trainer may buy some for his/her self.
    They also may just let them go for what ever they bring its a total crap shot.
    Yes Barretts is a top notch auction house but Please this isn't Saratoga or Keeneland Select so stop putting the fear of God in this woman.
    Let her run w/ the wind. Sometime dreams do come true and you won't know unless you try.

    At the very worst she can go see who bought her, drop off a business card w/ contact #'s and say if n' when shes done let me know.
    ***Also a side note if you should not get her, and the new owner is nice you can have you name and number put on her papers...yes guys she can stating that in the eventuality mare comes up for sale please contact you. Remember Zitto did that and old stakes horse found his way back to him


    Do not be negative, I just sat thru Fasig Tipton Timonium and stuff that should have sold didn't.
    In a perfect world she would sell for what she runs for but it ain't even close to being perfect.
    Go enjoy and please share the whole experiance w/ us!!!
    I'm rooting for JINGLE BUMP what ever....
    and PS my husband never knows from day to day how many we actually own.
    Bay horses blue rugs...still thinks my WB gelding is in field..sold the toad 3 years ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Moderator 1
    Good luck if you decide to hit the auction!
    Mod 1

    Mod 1 rocks hard core!!!
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    This is SSSS0000000 exciting! I love when our hearts are in charge. I have never had a single regret when I felt this way about an animal, a major purchase, or hey, even a man. There is a reason why these things hit us so deeply....they are meant to be. Go get your filly!
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    Good luck if you decide to go!

    I have been obsessed with a horse that belonged to a trainer in a barn I groomed in 6 years ago at the Fair Grounds. I'm talking to the point of having dreams about him. I followed him in my Virtual Stable since 2002-03 winter. Well, he won 3 in a row over the summer, and coincidentally I started working for the racing commission at the Fair Grounds where he would be running this winter. I saw the trainer on Thanksgiving and asked him about the horse(who hadn't run since August). Well, he tells me the horse is entered that Sunday. I asked him what he was going to do with him after he's done racing, and he tells me that he's mine when they are done with him(which will be by the end of the meet)!!!! He also tells me that he tried to give the horse away in August, but the people never showed up to pick him up so they kept training him. He just turned 11 and ran 3rd Nov 30 and 2nd Dec 31, so we'll see when he runs next. He is gorgeous, calm, and I cannot wait to get him after I've been following him so long!
    Brandi
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    I don't think the mare is in danger. I just think sometimes we all need to follow a feeling. I have a 20 year old tb grazing in my back field that I felt compelled to ship cross country forever ago. I needed a huge tb gelding who was wild...not! the way things turned out taking that leap was one of the best things I have ever done. sometimes you just have to go for it. jmo



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    She probably is not in danger BUT the market is in the crapper. Go back to the last mixed sale at Barretts and Ocala and see the prices that very very nice mares in foal did not bring. Most weanlings were not even bringing their stud fee when a year ago they'd have brought several times it.

    We also don't know if she is sound and CAN race again. So far her record isn't exactly sterling. Her pedigree is nice but Hold Your Tiger (one of my favs) has been sent to France which means he's box office poison now for commercial breeders. So don't just ASSUME that she is safe, let someone follow their heart and be SURE she is safe.

    As I said there are several KBs that work out of Barrett's mixed sales every year.

    OP I hope you can go and see her and talk to the old/new owners and get your name on her papers. She may indeed need a safety net someday even if she sells well on that day.
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